i think this thread is a horrible real-world example of why we would need actual safe spaces. and this is not a safe space at all.
instead of acknowledging the problem, there's been all kinds of transphobic and interphobic slander being thrown around, citing science and biology etc. to try to revive eugenics and construct a scientific godhead who decides who is what. that is incredibly hurtful and those messages by shirazmn (and flamesabers agreeing to every such post) alone are enough for me to not feel welcome on this forum at all.
there's a well written article about the issue, this gets immediately shot down because of the author is not in medical field, HRT, surgeries etc. transmedicalism like this is deeply offensive and exclusionary.
and again the term "genetic males" is dug up. nobody has explained what that means? you can't see a person's sex by looking at their genes. you can't see it in any one measurement. it's a spectrum. yet you keep on bringing it up.
and now there's a pile of messages all sparked from a single bad incident that's btw only known to manue and heaven's night, so the others can do nothing but take your words for it. it might be bad, but i'm not gonna let you pretend like all the other dehumanising shit hasn't gone down even in this thread. like this is so ridiculously bad, everyone's pointing fingers now that there's a discord incident to be dug up, but everything prior to that is conveniently ignored.
and how should anyone build bridges if you're waiting on the other side with a baseball bat, ready to swing again in a minute? respect is earned, not given.
"Newcomers will read that and assume that people in this forum are genetic males, whether you like the definition or not"
this really tells me everything. this forum is for those who have the right genes, the right identity, whether that tells anything about the person or not is not up for debate, and the following "i have nothing against.." is just wind after the initial idea. you absolutely do have against. you're just deferring your hateful ideas to the hypothetical "newcomer" who's coming here all loaded with hatred towards anyone not resembling him, and you're all for pandering to that kind of twisted narrative.
instead of acknowledging the problem, there's been all kinds of transphobic and interphobic slander being thrown around, citing science and biology etc. to try to revive eugenics and construct a scientific godhead who decides who is what. that is incredibly hurtful and those messages by shirazmn (and flamesabers agreeing to every such post) alone are enough for me to not feel welcome on this forum at all.
there's a well written article about the issue, this gets immediately shot down because of the author is not in medical field, HRT, surgeries etc. transmedicalism like this is deeply offensive and exclusionary.
and again the term "genetic males" is dug up. nobody has explained what that means? you can't see a person's sex by looking at their genes. you can't see it in any one measurement. it's a spectrum. yet you keep on bringing it up.
and now there's a pile of messages all sparked from a single bad incident that's btw only known to manue and heaven's night, so the others can do nothing but take your words for it. it might be bad, but i'm not gonna let you pretend like all the other dehumanising shit hasn't gone down even in this thread. like this is so ridiculously bad, everyone's pointing fingers now that there's a discord incident to be dug up, but everything prior to that is conveniently ignored.
and how should anyone build bridges if you're waiting on the other side with a baseball bat, ready to swing again in a minute? respect is earned, not given.
"Newcomers will read that and assume that people in this forum are genetic males, whether you like the definition or not"
this really tells me everything. this forum is for those who have the right genes, the right identity, whether that tells anything about the person or not is not up for debate, and the following "i have nothing against.." is just wind after the initial idea. you absolutely do have against. you're just deferring your hateful ideas to the hypothetical "newcomer" who's coming here all loaded with hatred towards anyone not resembling him, and you're all for pandering to that kind of twisted narrative.