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Hey hi!

Long time lurker, infrequent poster.  

I have read through this thread on the TCP and am very excited by the promise it holds.
I do have a couple a questions though.

A little background first.
I started my journey back in 2020 and have spent the last five years on and off making some but really very minimal progress due to very obstinate T.
The best results I had (based on blood work) was when I was dosing four times a day (approx every 4 waking hours).  I was able to get my T down to 100ng/pl. This speaks to one of the comments in the thread about ever 4 hours in small doses being better than less frequent higher doses.

My current program is
Orally:
3x daily
500mg Bovine Ovary (Swanson)
1 ml White Peony extract (Hawaii Pharm)

On Waking
(1) D3 + K2 + MSM (British Vitamins)
(1) Chelated Mineral Complex (magnesium, potassium, calcium, Zinc, Iron, Manganese, Copper, Iodine, Chromium, Selenium (British Vitamins)

Throughout the day
4+ measured cups of green tea with Ginger, Licorice, Spearmint, and Fenugreek

Before bed
Dutasteride .4mg for hair loss
4000mg MSM (SulferHealth) + 1 ml chilli extract (Hawaii Pharm)+ 2 tbs (approx) cider vinegar in a glass of water.
.5 ml E1 (BioLABs PRO Estriol Max) rectally

My questions are:

1. Could cream be replaced with oil?  
   The BioLABs E1 is suspended in MCT oil, would there be anything wrong with combining BioLABs PRO Estriol MAX and DHEA oils and adding BO and RC? (Without buds I am not including Prog)
   
2. Is there a preferred suspension for extracts?  
   I understand Lotus stays away from alcohol based extracts, but I would okay with them if as I understand it alcohol aids in absorption.
   
3. I am thinking of making my cocktail in larger batches and then dosing out with a dropper or syringe to save time in the evenings.  
   Does that seem reasonable?
   
4. Finally, is once a day before bed enough or should I be applying this every 4 hours to maintain levels?
   

Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
-Kit

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that dutasteride is a testosterone blocker not a full "anti-androgen". So while your T levels wont go down your body is unable to process the T that is in your system. For that reason I chose spiro so that I could better monitor my blood levels (cypro is technically better but it's not available in the US and it technically can have very severe consequences for using it long term)


On a completely different note I just wanted to report back to everyone (and any doubters) in the thread:
I've been on .125 ml of EV (5mg E2) every 3.5 days, 100 mg spiro (50 2/day), and 1 mg Finasteride since Jan 27, 2024 (Bloodwork: E2 311-456 pg/dl, T 12-21 ng/dl) and saw an "okay" amount of breast growth (42B/maybe C). I started following a version of Heaven's NBE supplements + topical protocol minus the E cream, cayenne, red clover, and BO earlier this month and have already seen significant results in fullness. Of course YMMV and I am aware I'm still pretty early in my journey, but to see such rapid growth so quickly is mind blowing. I will also be starting 100 mg of P4 this month and am looking forward to what additional changes adding that will bring!

For those in the US these are the products I use for topical use:
DMSO (5 drops)
Volufiline (10 drops)
DHEA (1 opened capsule)
Prog Cream (2 pumps)
Adjustable Micro Needle stamp [Amazon discontinued  ] (1.75 on breast and 1.25-5 on areolae depending on my pain tolerance that day)

and NBE supplements:

BO (3 morning, 4 evening)
L-tyrosine (2 morning)
Omega3 (2 morning)
GABA (2 afternoon; 30 minutes before lunch)
Acetyl L-carnitine (1 evening before bed)
L-ornithine powder (1/4 tsp)
MSM powder (3 tsp)
Vitex (4 evening before bed)
EPO (Omega6) (2 evening before bed)

(If anyone has any tips on how to take the powders more easily I would appreciate if you shot me a DM so we don't clog up the topical thread with supplement talk. They taste VILE even mixed with flavored sparkling water or orange juice)