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The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night)

Hey hi!

Long time lurker, infrequent poster. Tongue 

I have read through this thread on the TCP and am very excited by the promise it holds.
I do have a couple a questions though.

A little background first.
I started my journey back in 2020 and have spent the last five years on and off making some but really very minimal progress due to very obstinate T.
The best results I had (based on blood work) was when I was dosing four times a day (approx every 4 waking hours).  I was able to get my T down to 100ng/pl. This speaks to one of the comments in the thread about ever 4 hours in small doses being better than less frequent higher doses.

My current program is
Orally:
3x daily
500mg Bovine Ovary (Swanson)
1 ml White Peony extract (Hawaii Pharm)

On Waking
(1) D3 + K2 + MSM (British Vitamins)
(1) Chelated Mineral Complex (magnesium, potassium, calcium, Zinc, Iron, Manganese, Copper, Iodine, Chromium, Selenium (British Vitamins)

Throughout the day
4+ measured cups of green tea with Ginger, Licorice, Spearmint, and Fenugreek

Before bed
Dutasteride .4mg for hair loss
4000mg MSM (SulferHealth) + 1 ml chilli extract (Hawaii Pharm)+ 2 tbs (approx) cider vinegar in a glass of water.
.5 ml E1 (BioLABs PRO Estriol Max) rectally

My questions are:
  1. Could cream be replaced with oil?  
    The BioLABs E1 is suspended in MCT oil, would there be anything wrong with combining BioLABs PRO Estriol MAX and DHEA oils and adding BO and RC? (Without buds I am not including Prog)
  2. Is there a preferred suspension for extracts?  
    I understand Lotus stays away from alcohol based extracts, but I would okay with them if as I understand it alcohol aids in absorption.
  3. I am thinking of making my cocktail in larger batches and then dosing out with a dropper or syringe to save time in the evenings.  
    Does that seem reasonable?
  4. Finally, is once a day before bed enough or should I be applying this every 4 hours to maintain levels?
Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
-Kit
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The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Lotus - 11-09-2024, 04:22 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Stevenator_ - 11-09-2024, 01:17 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Heaven's Night - 11-09-2024, 01:40 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by OphelieBoots - 12-09-2024, 01:07 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Lotus - 18-09-2024, 04:07 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Lotus - 18-09-2024, 04:36 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Heaven's Night - 18-09-2024, 05:46 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Lotus - 20-09-2024, 03:07 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Lotus - 20-09-2024, 02:51 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Heaven's Night - 20-09-2024, 07:33 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Stevenator_ - 21-09-2024, 12:14 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Heaven's Night - 21-09-2024, 01:19 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Avign0n4090 - 12-05-2025, 06:17 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Heaven's Night - 13-05-2025, 07:58 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Avign0n4090 - 13-05-2025, 11:41 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by wee2er - 22-09-2024, 08:23 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Lotus - 29-09-2024, 07:21 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by DruLactin - 29-09-2024, 08:14 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Stevenator_ - 29-09-2024, 11:27 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by CM213 - 30-09-2024, 10:38 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by fem394 - 02-10-2024, 03:00 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by wee2er - 03-10-2024, 08:06 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Lotus - 06-10-2024, 09:40 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by katy9 - 05-10-2024, 03:50 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Lotus - 06-10-2024, 10:28 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Stevenator_ - 06-10-2024, 01:42 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Lancer - 06-10-2024, 06:19 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Heaven's Night - 06-10-2024, 06:45 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Lotus - 06-10-2024, 08:47 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Lotus - 06-10-2024, 11:29 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Stevenator_ - 14-11-2024, 04:32 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Bindian - 26-12-2024, 02:27 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Stevenator_ - 26-12-2024, 02:51 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by katy9 - 06-10-2024, 11:30 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Lotus - 07-10-2024, 12:44 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by katy9 - 07-10-2024, 12:48 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Heaven's Night - 07-10-2024, 06:14 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by katy9 - 07-10-2024, 08:15 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Heaven's Night - 07-10-2024, 08:31 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by katy9 - 07-10-2024, 08:38 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Heaven's Night - 07-10-2024, 08:50 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by katy9 - 07-10-2024, 08:59 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by katy9 - 07-10-2024, 09:15 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by katy9 - 07-10-2024, 10:23 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Ninja - 07-10-2024, 12:11 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by fem394 - 07-10-2024, 04:07 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Heaven's Night - 08-10-2024, 06:23 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by wee2er - 08-10-2024, 07:28 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by NBE Friends) - by SweetO - 08-10-2024, 10:18 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by NBE Friends) - by Heaven's Night - 09-10-2024, 05:30 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by NBE Friends) - by Heaven's Night - 14-11-2024, 08:29 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by blue_girl21 - 22-11-2024, 03:04 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Heaven's Night - 22-11-2024, 03:24 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by wee2er - 23-11-2024, 11:47 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Ernie - 30-11-2024, 10:39 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Ernie - 08-12-2024, 01:36 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Stevenator_ - 08-12-2024, 06:41 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Heaven's Night - 08-12-2024, 08:32 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by fem394 - 09-12-2024, 05:12 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by SweetO - 09-12-2024, 12:56 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Heaven's Night - 10-12-2024, 09:52 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Bindian - 11-12-2024, 01:18 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Heaven's Night - 11-12-2024, 07:55 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Lotus - 09-12-2024, 06:34 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by SweetO - 11-12-2024, 12:34 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by SweetO - 11-12-2024, 12:46 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Lotus - 11-12-2024, 07:18 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by SweetO - 11-12-2024, 01:36 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Lotus - 12-12-2024, 06:02 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Bindian - 12-12-2024, 06:19 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Lotus - 12-12-2024, 07:30 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Chestnut - 12-12-2024, 05:45 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Heaven's Night - 12-12-2024, 08:28 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Bindian - 12-12-2024, 09:04 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by wee2er - 12-12-2024, 03:47 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Heaven's Night - 12-12-2024, 04:44 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Lotus - 13-12-2024, 04:55 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by Heaven's Night - 13-12-2024, 07:45 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by wee2er - 13-12-2024, 10:50 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus) - by ente1980 - 19-12-2024, 04:19 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 28-12-2024, 08:10 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Stevenator_ - 28-12-2024, 08:25 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Marica - 28-12-2024, 11:55 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 28-12-2024, 03:03 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by ente1980 - 29-12-2024, 05:39 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Melissa24 - 28-12-2024, 04:54 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 28-12-2024, 05:08 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by SweetO - 28-12-2024, 07:59 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 29-12-2024, 08:19 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by wee2er - 29-12-2024, 03:03 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by LisaM - 29-12-2024, 03:32 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by LisaM - 29-12-2024, 03:35 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 29-12-2024, 04:41 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by wee2er - 30-12-2024, 02:31 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 30-12-2024, 02:49 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Lotus - 31-12-2024, 02:49 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Stevenator_ - 31-12-2024, 03:20 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 31-12-2024, 07:25 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by LisaM - 31-12-2024, 11:22 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 31-12-2024, 11:37 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by wee2er - 01-01-2025, 10:52 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 01-01-2025, 02:53 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Shiki - 04-01-2025, 05:53 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 04-01-2025, 06:08 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by LisaM - 01-01-2025, 03:53 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 01-01-2025, 04:00 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by KittKat - 10-01-2025, 10:03 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Shiki - 11-01-2025, 11:33 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Lotus - 10-01-2025, 10:39 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by KittKat - 13-01-2025, 06:17 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by KittKat - 22-01-2025, 06:45 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by wee2er - 11-01-2025, 05:28 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 11-01-2025, 06:50 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Stevenator_ - 11-01-2025, 07:22 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by wee2er - 12-01-2025, 12:03 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by SweetChloe - 12-01-2025, 05:49 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 12-01-2025, 08:07 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Shiki - 13-01-2025, 03:50 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Stevenator_ - 13-01-2025, 05:31 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by wee2er - 13-01-2025, 05:44 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by SweetChloe - 14-01-2025, 01:27 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Shiki - 16-01-2025, 04:56 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by wee2er - 14-01-2025, 09:28 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 16-01-2025, 08:31 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Mashtenn - 30-01-2025, 03:30 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 30-01-2025, 03:34 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Mashtenn - 11-02-2025, 04:10 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Ninja - 11-02-2025, 09:09 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 12-02-2025, 07:54 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Ernie - 15-02-2025, 02:32 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Stevenator_ - 11-02-2025, 09:30 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 15-02-2025, 02:45 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Ernie - 15-02-2025, 03:25 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 15-02-2025, 03:59 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Billie - 15-02-2025, 04:18 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 15-02-2025, 04:29 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Ernie - 15-02-2025, 05:22 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 15-02-2025, 06:46 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Ernie - 15-02-2025, 07:41 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Ernie - 15-02-2025, 05:04 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Lotus - 16-02-2025, 12:02 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Ernie - 16-02-2025, 12:37 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 16-02-2025, 09:43 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 15-02-2025, 05:32 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Ernie - 15-02-2025, 05:41 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 15-02-2025, 05:47 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by wee2er - 16-02-2025, 10:48 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Ernie - 16-02-2025, 11:03 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by wee2er - 16-02-2025, 01:07 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 16-02-2025, 11:27 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 15-03-2025, 09:06 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Ninja - 15-03-2025, 09:58 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 15-03-2025, 10:36 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by wee2er - 16-03-2025, 09:47 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Ekocham - 17-03-2025, 06:00 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 17-03-2025, 06:31 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Dominique - 07-05-2025, 12:21 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 07-05-2025, 04:58 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 14-05-2025, 05:12 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Avign0n4090 - 14-05-2025, 05:54 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 14-05-2025, 06:44 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by eve_phedrina - 25-05-2025, 07:21 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 26-05-2025, 06:23 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by eve_phedrina - 27-05-2025, 03:46 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 28-05-2025, 12:37 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by nobody1985 - 30-06-2025, 11:17 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 30-06-2025, 12:24 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by marilou - 22-09-2025, 09:38 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by CM213 - 02-10-2025, 12:03 AM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Vana_B - 02-10-2025, 03:13 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by L4BigBooty - 20-10-2025, 06:01 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by Heaven's Night - 20-10-2025, 06:04 PM
RE: The Topical Cream Protocol (by Lotus & Heavens Night) - by L4BigBooty - 20-10-2025, 06:04 PM



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