16-11-2022, 07:26 PM
Hey Ben .... welcome to the forum. BN is a great place to learn about NBE.
The Project-X thread, along with Breast Growing Notes and Anti-Androgens by Lotus are a great place to spend most of your time. There’s so much information in those threads to soak up and learn from. Lotus has devoted an enormous amount of her personal time and shared the information here for our benefit.
One bit of advice I’m going to offer is something every big guy hates to hear and that is you’ve got to lose weight.
I say this as someone who started NBE on the heavy side and promptly ballooned up past 300lbs myself. So coming from one (former) big guy to another, I implore you not to discount this.
This is especially true if you want to be successful with an NBE program. It’s risky right now for you to add phytoestrogens, because anything you take will go straight to your belly.
When's the last time you had any bloodwork done? You really need to speak with a health care professional first before starting NBE.
Losing weight is about the best advice you can get, because anything you take now will likely make you gain more weight.
You’ve already got a ton of estrogen stored in your belly right now as it is. If you take an AA now without a current hormone panel, you risk compromising your bone density, because you don’t know how low your T is currently.
If you inhibit T, you run the risk of making things worse and what little energy you have now, it will be completely wiped out with zero T. I did this myself and that’s exactly what happened to me multiple times. It was horrible.
In order to proceed with NBE, you should commit to losing weight and get a blood test that shows your current hormone levels.
I know comments like this are a gut punch and might seem insulting, but it’s the cold hard facts. I turned up my nose when I started this to the same info presented to me. I ignored it and I just kept getting fatter.
As a diabetic, you probably are familiar that you need to be on a low carb diet. That is imperative. Do you take Metformin? If not you should consider taking Berberine. It’s identical to Metformin. You absolutely must clean out your liver in order to live a healthy life.
I’ll say this, as I started losing weight earlier this year when my vegetable garden kicked into high gear.
For the last 20 years or so I was on a high carb diet. I had no idea how bad this was for me. Routinely I’d consume a big bowl of pasta or rice & beans and top it off with a huge bowl of ice cream with syrup. Then do it all again the next night for years on end. I’d have pitchers of beer every single night. Thank goodness I stopped drinking several years back, but I’d still eat several sandwiches a day and completely ignore the carbohydrate content of all my meals.
But last June when my garden kicked in, I got swamped with vegetables and that’s all I ate for weeks on end. Next thing I noticed, I started losing weight. I told Lotus about this this, and she laughed and said without me knowing it, I had started the Keto diet and shared with me Dr. Eric Berg’s YouTube channel. Let me tell you, Dr. Berg changed my life.
I would highly recommend that you do a deep dive into his videos. He has thousands of them and a search on his page about any diet matter will give several responses. His videos are incredibly informative.
They’re 5-10 minute chalkboard lectures that are easy to understand. The really interesting thing about them is they break down the science behind losing weight in an easy to understand format that is just as easy to implement into your daily life. I can’t stress this enough. It’s EASY to do!
One fun thing about the keto diet and intermittent fasting, is once you get into a groove of removing carbs from your diet, you’re no longer hungry during the day! The spikes and valleys of hunger disappear when you remove carbs from your diet.
Another thing that has helped me lose weight is to stop eating food out of a box because boxed food is processed and loaded with terrible ingredients that are garbage for your system.
Factory Foods today are loaded with High Fructose Corn Syrup, Hidden Sugars and Seed Oils. These things are terrible for us, and all they do in the long run is clog up our liver with fat because excess carbs get converted to fat from excess insulin production.
Start eating only fresh foods from the perimeter of the grocery store and stay away from any prepared foods from the middle aisles.
One thing I was amazed about keto is that when calculating carbs when reading food labels, is to subtract the fiber content from the carbohydrate content to get “net carbs”. One of the goals to a Keto diet is to get your daily carb intake below 25 grams. This can easily be accomplished by taking into account the fiber content of your foods.
For instance, when starring keto I noticed that one of my favorite meals was hamburgers & hot dogs. I looked at the label on the buns and one bun had 25 grams of carbs and zero grams of fiber.
That means that just one bun was my total carbohydrate intake for the day! Insane! To calm your nerves, there are high fiber keto buns available and the high fiber brings the net carbs down to 6 grams. Not bad, but a hell of a lot better than 25!
One thing I do is as I previously mentioned, and that is I grow a lot of my own vegetables. For years I didn’t grow much in the winter, but this year after seeing Doctor Berg recommend a cruciferous diet, I decided to plant a lot of brassicas.
Cruciferous vegetables clean out your liver. When your liver is clogged with fat, it’s almost impossible to lose weight. Plus, they’re loaded with vitamins.
I would recommend you cut out all sugars, and all non natural carbs even avoiding potatoes and all fruits. I’d also recommend you start distance walking yesterday and dive head first into Doctor Berg’s YouTube channel.
I know this might seem harsh, but it’s coming from someone who used to weigh 300 lbs. with the Keto diet, I lost 40 lbs in a few months. Right now I’ve plateaued and I’m trying to lose the rest.
I should walk more than I prescribe, but I’m taking this diet religiously. I also apologize if you’re already familiar with some of this information, but you have to lose weight if you want to grow boobs and not jeopardize your health any further.
I’d also recommend that you start taking Vitamin E - Tocotrienols, Vitamin D3, Milk Thistle (or Tudca). These help to clean out your liver. If you’re not on Metformin, then Berberine is a herb that has identical properties.
The cold hard fact of the matter is that if you’re not willing to start losing weight then theirs nothing that NBE can do for you without making things worse for you.
You’ve GOT to go in complete reverse to lose weight before you start building breasts. Any estrogens you take now will only add to the estrogens you already have stored in your belly, ie; it’ll only make you fatter.
I wish you the best of luck going forward. It’s not as hard to do as you might think. From someone who used to be 300 lbs myself, I’m hopeful that anyone willing to lose weight will do so because it’s not as hard as we think think it is.
Low carb Keto diet, intermittent fasting, exercise is the key. Even if it’s just walking a mile a day.
You can do this, but until you do, any estrogens that you add to your system will go straight to your belly and you’ll only gain more weight.
You can do this. Best of Luck.
The Project-X thread, along with Breast Growing Notes and Anti-Androgens by Lotus are a great place to spend most of your time. There’s so much information in those threads to soak up and learn from. Lotus has devoted an enormous amount of her personal time and shared the information here for our benefit.
One bit of advice I’m going to offer is something every big guy hates to hear and that is you’ve got to lose weight.
I say this as someone who started NBE on the heavy side and promptly ballooned up past 300lbs myself. So coming from one (former) big guy to another, I implore you not to discount this.
This is especially true if you want to be successful with an NBE program. It’s risky right now for you to add phytoestrogens, because anything you take will go straight to your belly.
When's the last time you had any bloodwork done? You really need to speak with a health care professional first before starting NBE.
Losing weight is about the best advice you can get, because anything you take now will likely make you gain more weight.
You’ve already got a ton of estrogen stored in your belly right now as it is. If you take an AA now without a current hormone panel, you risk compromising your bone density, because you don’t know how low your T is currently.
If you inhibit T, you run the risk of making things worse and what little energy you have now, it will be completely wiped out with zero T. I did this myself and that’s exactly what happened to me multiple times. It was horrible.
In order to proceed with NBE, you should commit to losing weight and get a blood test that shows your current hormone levels.
I know comments like this are a gut punch and might seem insulting, but it’s the cold hard facts. I turned up my nose when I started this to the same info presented to me. I ignored it and I just kept getting fatter.
As a diabetic, you probably are familiar that you need to be on a low carb diet. That is imperative. Do you take Metformin? If not you should consider taking Berberine. It’s identical to Metformin. You absolutely must clean out your liver in order to live a healthy life.
I’ll say this, as I started losing weight earlier this year when my vegetable garden kicked into high gear.
For the last 20 years or so I was on a high carb diet. I had no idea how bad this was for me. Routinely I’d consume a big bowl of pasta or rice & beans and top it off with a huge bowl of ice cream with syrup. Then do it all again the next night for years on end. I’d have pitchers of beer every single night. Thank goodness I stopped drinking several years back, but I’d still eat several sandwiches a day and completely ignore the carbohydrate content of all my meals.
But last June when my garden kicked in, I got swamped with vegetables and that’s all I ate for weeks on end. Next thing I noticed, I started losing weight. I told Lotus about this this, and she laughed and said without me knowing it, I had started the Keto diet and shared with me Dr. Eric Berg’s YouTube channel. Let me tell you, Dr. Berg changed my life.
I would highly recommend that you do a deep dive into his videos. He has thousands of them and a search on his page about any diet matter will give several responses. His videos are incredibly informative.
They’re 5-10 minute chalkboard lectures that are easy to understand. The really interesting thing about them is they break down the science behind losing weight in an easy to understand format that is just as easy to implement into your daily life. I can’t stress this enough. It’s EASY to do!
One fun thing about the keto diet and intermittent fasting, is once you get into a groove of removing carbs from your diet, you’re no longer hungry during the day! The spikes and valleys of hunger disappear when you remove carbs from your diet.
Another thing that has helped me lose weight is to stop eating food out of a box because boxed food is processed and loaded with terrible ingredients that are garbage for your system.
Factory Foods today are loaded with High Fructose Corn Syrup, Hidden Sugars and Seed Oils. These things are terrible for us, and all they do in the long run is clog up our liver with fat because excess carbs get converted to fat from excess insulin production.
Start eating only fresh foods from the perimeter of the grocery store and stay away from any prepared foods from the middle aisles.
One thing I was amazed about keto is that when calculating carbs when reading food labels, is to subtract the fiber content from the carbohydrate content to get “net carbs”. One of the goals to a Keto diet is to get your daily carb intake below 25 grams. This can easily be accomplished by taking into account the fiber content of your foods.
For instance, when starring keto I noticed that one of my favorite meals was hamburgers & hot dogs. I looked at the label on the buns and one bun had 25 grams of carbs and zero grams of fiber.
That means that just one bun was my total carbohydrate intake for the day! Insane! To calm your nerves, there are high fiber keto buns available and the high fiber brings the net carbs down to 6 grams. Not bad, but a hell of a lot better than 25!
One thing I do is as I previously mentioned, and that is I grow a lot of my own vegetables. For years I didn’t grow much in the winter, but this year after seeing Doctor Berg recommend a cruciferous diet, I decided to plant a lot of brassicas.
Cruciferous vegetables clean out your liver. When your liver is clogged with fat, it’s almost impossible to lose weight. Plus, they’re loaded with vitamins.
I would recommend you cut out all sugars, and all non natural carbs even avoiding potatoes and all fruits. I’d also recommend you start distance walking yesterday and dive head first into Doctor Berg’s YouTube channel.
I know this might seem harsh, but it’s coming from someone who used to weigh 300 lbs. with the Keto diet, I lost 40 lbs in a few months. Right now I’ve plateaued and I’m trying to lose the rest.
I should walk more than I prescribe, but I’m taking this diet religiously. I also apologize if you’re already familiar with some of this information, but you have to lose weight if you want to grow boobs and not jeopardize your health any further.
I’d also recommend that you start taking Vitamin E - Tocotrienols, Vitamin D3, Milk Thistle (or Tudca). These help to clean out your liver. If you’re not on Metformin, then Berberine is a herb that has identical properties.
The cold hard fact of the matter is that if you’re not willing to start losing weight then theirs nothing that NBE can do for you without making things worse for you.
You’ve GOT to go in complete reverse to lose weight before you start building breasts. Any estrogens you take now will only add to the estrogens you already have stored in your belly, ie; it’ll only make you fatter.
I wish you the best of luck going forward. It’s not as hard to do as you might think. From someone who used to be 300 lbs myself, I’m hopeful that anyone willing to lose weight will do so because it’s not as hard as we think think it is.
Low carb Keto diet, intermittent fasting, exercise is the key. Even if it’s just walking a mile a day.
You can do this, but until you do, any estrogens that you add to your system will go straight to your belly and you’ll only gain more weight.
You can do this. Best of Luck.