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Ok this is all interesting...

Slathering Progesterone cream is using too much. An ⅛ to ¼ tsp is basically all you need per breast, plus you don't need to use it every day. In a 7 period you chose a 3 or 4 application period, and preferably applied at bedtime because progesterone has mild sedative quality, not like the oral pill has though. The wild yam you're using has diosgenin, which stimulates estradiol, you'll need USP micronized progesterone cream. As it stands the diosgenin is compromising your estrogen receptors in your breasts.

This is actually good to know because it means one can will last far longer. The note about needing to look for USP is also very important. Wasn't sure about the difference.

If you're just using a PC, use it for the breasts only, too much can be anti-estrogen. It's up to you whether you want to use PC on your areolas or not, I tried it and didn't like the change in color by using PC on my areolas (too light in color)

Does this mean too much cream elsewhere on the body can be anti-estrogenic around the whole body? Either way, good to know putting it on the areola is an option. I'll have to experiment with it. It seems to have made my nipples larger, so it may be worth trying more.

Good question, in the male breast there's more progesterone receptors than androgen receptors, but....progesterone is a precursor of androgens so what does that tell you Sounds like you're on the fence on oral P4 (progesterone). Personally, I don't know if I saw that much of a difference between the pill or the cream...and that includes taking the pill orally or rectally, or taking a dual version of P4 (oral/rectal) simultaneously, but that's me, everyone's different.

I'm not opposed to oral progesterone, I'm opposed to rectal progesterone for personal health reasons. Interesting to know cream had about the same effect for you...



MSM helps to restore what progesterone destroys during its protein metabolism. MSM also stimulates GH (growth hormone)

Taking MSM helps to restore what progesterone destroys during its protein metabolism. We also learned progesterone is catabolic to protein expression in breast tissue. Now we can address this catabolism (breakdown of proteins) by adding amino acids to the mix...possibly tyrosine and proline to strengthen the protein loss. Or possibly consuming more protein in our diet.

Interesting to note how progesterone affects protein. I've been adding protein to my diet for health anyways, so that should help with this.


Well, I guess I'll go look for a USP Progesterone Cream and go from there. Thanks for all the feedback! I'll try smaller doses of USP Progesterone Cream to the breast 4 days a week and go from there. I'll maybe try oral progesterone next year, but we'll see.