03-07-2022, 01:05 AM
Manue,
this is really a bad idea, this study found that Donyu Rats using PM (the study you quoted from) reported PM causes mammary carcinogenesis...aka cancer. If moobdood simply spoke with her doctor they would advise against using a phytoestrogens with bioidentical estrogen...ever. And I continually address using this approach as it competes with estrogen receptors. Bioidentical estrogens bind more correctly to estrogen receptors than do phytoestrogens, I know some science reports otherwise, but as someone who's been on nbe and hrt the effects of hrt are more dramatic on hrt than nbe...it just takes more time, folks have to be patient. Plus, when folks start adding more than one estrogen source to a program you run into over expression of estrogen receptors causing a disruption of normal estrogen signaling to the nucleus, meaning stalling your growth. It'll take weeks (maybe months to reset the estrogen receptors).
Pueraria mirifica Exerts Estrogenic Effects in the Mammary Gland and Uterus and Promotes Mammary Carcinogenesis in Donryu Rats
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5127102/
this is really a bad idea, this study found that Donyu Rats using PM (the study you quoted from) reported PM causes mammary carcinogenesis...aka cancer. If moobdood simply spoke with her doctor they would advise against using a phytoestrogens with bioidentical estrogen...ever. And I continually address using this approach as it competes with estrogen receptors. Bioidentical estrogens bind more correctly to estrogen receptors than do phytoestrogens, I know some science reports otherwise, but as someone who's been on nbe and hrt the effects of hrt are more dramatic on hrt than nbe...it just takes more time, folks have to be patient. Plus, when folks start adding more than one estrogen source to a program you run into over expression of estrogen receptors causing a disruption of normal estrogen signaling to the nucleus, meaning stalling your growth. It'll take weeks (maybe months to reset the estrogen receptors).
Pueraria mirifica Exerts Estrogenic Effects in the Mammary Gland and Uterus and Promotes Mammary Carcinogenesis in Donryu Rats
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5127102/