[ChuckM]

My understanding (and I may be incorrect) is that T replacement has different effects on the body than the body's naturally produced T, and that it can sometimes trigger gynecomastia.  That's why, while I have good T levels, I still have some continued, albeit slow breast growth.

Thanks,

Sounds like we have similar goals, but not sure it is a realistic goal. 

I'm not looking for become more feminized,  just make my saggy man boobs fuller and rounder.   I'm trying to walk the fine line between keeping my T levels in a decent range, still lifting hard, and keeping sexual function.   I'm not looking to grow large boobs,  just make them fuller and perkier and not just a lump of fat hanging.

I am blessed/cursed with man boobs ( gyno ) which started many years back when I was lifting heavy as taking several types of T boosters and a short time on steroids.   I'm living proof that high levels of natural T can cause breast growth.  From my understanding this is caused by a process where the body converts T -> Estrogen ( amoratase ).

I have experimented with low doses of PM, and  even at low dosage I feel the feminizing effects.  For me PM is a love/hate relationship, I like some of the effects, but I can feel my T levels drop within a few days of taking it.  I did take it for several months, and have noticed some gains.  For me the side effects are too much for what I want.

At the moment, I am trying to use herbs that increase amoratase ( white peony & fennel ) and block DHT (reishi & SP ).  I'm taking both orally and mix with lotion applied to my chest.  My normal free T is ~1000, hopefully I can get my body to convert some of that to E,  without tanking my T levels.  I'm also using a noogleberry type pump a couple times a day, along with massage.

I think were looking for exactly the same thing, just a little fuller and rounder.  If we have to have gyno, then at least have our breasts look nice.

This is some of what I was looking for experience on - Because my T levels are maintained by T replacement, I don't think I have to worry about PM lowering my T levels and triggering the associated changes or low T.  And because the gyno is already established I'm hoping that taking a modest dose of PM will simply trigger some additional breast growth.

Let's keep in touch and share our experiences, and hopefully successes.

-Chuck