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I would be very careful experimenting with herbs. The costs can add up fast and many of them are not as harmless as they seem.

PM is something that I would avoid altogether since it mimics estrogen. There can be health issues with it, and before you know it, not only will you have obvious breast growth but other results like low libido, shrinking genitals, fat on the hips and ass and many other obvious feminine effects.

From my own experience, fenugreek alone is probably the safest and least expensive. 3 doses spread out over the day of two 610 mg capsules (1220 mg) will start and continue growth. There are no other side effect that I know of, just a slow growth of your breasts.

Like anything else, you should start with a smaller dose to see how it effects you.

Joey

Thanks, Joey.

I am aware that PM mimics estrogen. I am seeing a doctor regularly, and I have my next physical scheduled for March 9.  I asked her, when she draws blood, can she do a full hormone panel, Testosterone and Estrogen.  So we'll see what that shows.

As for the effects, I think that's why we take it, isn't it?  Obvious breast growth?  That's what this forum is all about, isn't it? Low libido is okay - I've had it for years.  Shrinking genitals? Not sure I really care. Other obvious feminine effects?  Sort of looking forward to seeing what that's like.

Your comments about fenugreek are interesting.  That's the main thing I have been taking up till now (1/2 tbsp - about 5g, morning and evening), and I am starting to see some results.  My main problem is that I'm too impatient.

But I will start with a low dose (1 capsule) of PM per day, and see where it goes.

I forgot to mention this, but PM (just like estrogen) can have other effects on the body, more specifically the liver. Since I have no liver problems, my doctor prescribed the estradiol with confidence. I have had tests to make sure there are no changes.
It's always good to have a doctor on board to know what you are doing!