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Bovine Ovary - How it works on a biological male (archive thread)
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(27-11-2018, 07:38 PM)Pandora56 Wrote:  
(04-11-2018, 08:39 AM)michelle street Wrote:  i LIKE TO UPDATE SOME THOUGHTS ON THIS SUBJECT SATED ABOVE


Quote:Bovine Ovary is preferably taken together with Kelp (iodine) and added protein

noted here

GLANDULAT PROGRAM GUIDS PDF

HOW TO RAISE YOUR BODY TEMPERATURE
If you read the ingredients list for most of the bovine ovary products on the market, a lot of them have kelp listed as one of their ingredients.
The problem with this is that kelp is only helpful for people who have an iodine deficiency.
And considering most of us live in the developed world where we consume quite a lot of salt – you most likely don’t have an iodine deficiency. In this case, consuming too much kelp (iodine) can actually be harmful, leading to really unwanted side effects like sudden, severe bouts of acne, bloating and weight gain, as well as an enlarged thyroid and a condition called subclinical hypothyroidism.
And considering most of us live in the developed world where we consume quite a lot of salt – you most likely don’t have an iodine deficiency. In this case, consuming too much kelp (iodine) can actually be harmful, leading to really unwanted side effects like sudden, severe bouts of acne, bloating and weight gain, as well as an enlarged thyroid and a condition called subclinical hypothyroidism.
Kelp supplements can also be dangerous ‘cause they contain concentrated doses of heavy metals that occur naturally in kelp, but can be toxic to humans in supplement form. For example, some kelp supplements have been found to have potentially toxic concentrations of arsenic.
This is why we don’t recommend bovine ovary supplements that include kelp – you have no idea of the source or quality of the kelp used in those pills. Even worse, every time you increase your bovine ovary dosage, you’re also increasing your kelp dosage, making it more likely that you’re getting far more iodine that is good for your body (adults need only 150micrograms of iodine per day and most of us get that easily from food).


Also see comments of "improving bovine glandular performance " by taking Phytoestrogens with BO

http://www.lifestyleprincess.com/bovine-ovary/

You do not want to add any more growth hormones into your system. Already, the bovine ovary is re-stimulating the existing ones. Phytoestrogens like the pueraria mirifica root are made from herbs that can interfere with your body’s natural growth hormone production. This is because; they work by adding growth hormones into your system. Combining re-stimulated growth hormones with more growth hormones lead to a deadly combination…an overload of hormones....and can stunt overall growth


This guide states to add a pituitary glandular as well. Never thought to do this and will need to do more research myself. 

Also, in this guide there is a misconception about men taking BO longer than 6 months. This forum has had a few people go beyond those 6 months and they were not in any form a permanent woman, although I do believe they have made efforts to full transition. 

Also I thought it was interesting about the GLA and Borage oil, but don't think I would go with pumpkin seed considering it has a lot of phytoestrogens. 

The MACA for balancing hormones was great too. I was told not to long ago that Maca helps increase testosterone and to omit it even though I was seeing great results with it on my NBE. I will reintegrate it into my regime. 

The Bioprene is also a wonderful suggestion and I have gone ahead in purchasing some. 

One thing it didn't cover were herbs that Increase Estrogen Responsiveness/agonist such as Dandelion Root. I have been trying to locate more types of ER uptake regulators but so far I have not found anything other then the dandelion root. 


Best wishes!
~Pandora

I did bovine ovary for around 10 months in 2016 and physically other than some breast growth and a bigger bottom it did nothing else really, it did have some mental effects although some of that might have just been a psycho-somatic response and the thought I was finally doing something I had agonised about doing for so long.  I had my hormones tested just before I stopped taking BO and although my testosterone was lower it was very much still in male range although on the low side for someone my age.  My estrogen level was barely above male range by this point.  I was spending so much on things like BO, Kelp, White Peony and PM and was taking so many pills in the end, that I figured it would be cheaper, easier and better for my body to just go on proper HRT and an anti-androgen. 

Maybe it would work better on someone younger - I was 37 when I started on BO, but in my opinion you would have much better results from just even low dose estrogen than a whole cocktail of different things with limited scientific basis for their effects, and it would work out way cheaper as well. Unless you add anti-androgens to the mix or really take a lot of actual estrogen for a sustained period the breast growth isnt going to be significant.  I have a large frame so that hides my growth easier than someone with a more slight frame - but was on HRT at a decent dose for 18 months before anything significant development and even now people who dont know dont comment on my breast growth, or are being very polite about it!

Megan
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