[Pinnochia]

*huge hug* you are so sweet ='))) thank you so much for your kind words and your advice! I know we have our eye one the prize but we have to go about it different ways lol "creatures" but yes, you are right. I actually was talking to a friend of mine on the forum about Fenu and she said that chances are the growth is temporary it made me feel bad about fenu!

Ahhh SHUCKS MAM,, LOL,,, ,, you aren't just the Viceroy of Vavoom,,, (your really amazing ),, thank you,,, i love that image.

Man ,,,,the stuff you heard about fenugreek really sucks,,urrghhh ,,

From what i understand about gynocomastia, there are different kinds, , and some medications causing it , can be later discontinued causing a reduction of the effect, If their stopped soon enough. but after a certain period of time, even some of those discontinued, will not result in reduction,, soooo,, Is there a chance if your taking Fenugreek for a long time that it might be a more permanant effect?

Now what im wondering is, since my tissue is generated differently than yours,, will the introductions of large quantities of this kind of phystrogen over an extended period, through different sources,,create cumulative growth along with the effects of the meds,( that are permanant? )

Will the presence of an ever increasing condition add to the phystrogens power in the male body?
would it strengthen these supplimental additions ?, give them a better foothold, or would it matter at all.?
Since im not being tested regularly for levels , i really have no concrete way of even guessing at an answer.

I GUESS- we just keep experimenting with suppliments , and eating the right foods, and keep on pumping kid,,.. lol,,, and thank our good graces for the bounty we already have.

Honestly- i believe the answer to larger faster gains lies in the way were pumping,,