22-03-2016, 06:16 PM
Hmm.... Lettuce, canned beans, 3.5 oz servings of slow-cooked meat. Reduce the beans, they're carby, but cheap. Or, add fiber (metamucil). And look for cheap greens, beet greens, mustard greens, kale, lettuce, broccoli.
I'd guess that'll follow Surfer Joe's nutrition program fairly closely, too.
Things to avoid are beans (carbs as noted, but we were focusing on costs first...), including string beans; root vegetables (carrots, potatoes, yams, beets, rutabaga, etc); rice; grains. Beans and rice are the cheap alternatives, though. And often you put butter on rice... Bad for losing fat, great for gaining it.
Hot peppers would help, so would ginger, but... :-P Cost goes up fast then. Hot sauces would be cheaper in the long run. Most of the benefits, minimal cost issues.
Fat sources (moving towards ketogenic diets) seem to be the weak point. Only so much coconut fat you can eat, and it's not cheap. Butter, too, is limited. And if you're eating over 3.5 oz of meat, your body can make glucose from the protein, gluconeogensis. Avocados are one, but they're also a phytoprogesterone, and not cheap. OTOH, maybe eating the meat fats would be OK, if you used red meat? So, cheap shuck steak/stew meat, slow-cook for a few hours with spices, and collect the broth/tallow afterwards. Then use that as a fat source.
Also, be active as much as possible. E.G., a workout twice a day plan, using light weights and lots of movement. Half hour or so, nothing much. Maybe even three times a day, take a walk at lunch time (counts for this sort of workout.) Take the stairs, even to just take the stairs. (EG, I'm on 23rd floor, I'll go to the 30th floor just to move. Also, gives you the chance to practice a hip wiggle. ;-) Stairs make the awareness easy, you feel the hips move. Piriformis, mostly.)
I don't think I have access to the 30th floor... I'm not really GOING there, I'm just walking, you know?
(And yes, I'm still that much of a lard@$$.)
Nuts are way out there, BTW, thanks to the EPA ensuring no water goes down the mountains to the California farmland (Google EPA Snail Darter for info.) Those are a good source of fats... Oils and butters are worse, and STAY AWAY from Peanut butter! Peanuts are legumes, not nuts, and high in Linoleic acid (fat that takes forever to remove from the body - one+ year half-life in the body.) LA is also common in Pork and Chicken fat, so DO NOT eat skin or fats. (There goes my bacon. :-( )
And since you're on fish oil anyway, make sure to count it into your diet. Timed correctly, it can help.
E.G., you eat Carbs and Protein, or Protein and Fat, but never Carbs and Fat (Carbs spike insulin, body stores energy as fat; fat = high energy for storage, and with the carb rush, you'll then want to eat more, or feel hungry, faster. And problem is worse for some ethnicities, I'm told: Irish and Italian can handle carbs better, others should avoid carbs more. )
Don't know if this is any help.... I hope it is.
Are you near farmland? Or even in a situation you could do some "microfarming"? Chickens, say, for fresh eggs? Rabbits, maybe, for meat? Maybe a goat for milk? Etc. Or maybe a shared or co-op farm. Just tossing ideas, in case anything is useful...
-Dianna
I'd guess that'll follow Surfer Joe's nutrition program fairly closely, too.
Things to avoid are beans (carbs as noted, but we were focusing on costs first...), including string beans; root vegetables (carrots, potatoes, yams, beets, rutabaga, etc); rice; grains. Beans and rice are the cheap alternatives, though. And often you put butter on rice... Bad for losing fat, great for gaining it.
Hot peppers would help, so would ginger, but... :-P Cost goes up fast then. Hot sauces would be cheaper in the long run. Most of the benefits, minimal cost issues.
Fat sources (moving towards ketogenic diets) seem to be the weak point. Only so much coconut fat you can eat, and it's not cheap. Butter, too, is limited. And if you're eating over 3.5 oz of meat, your body can make glucose from the protein, gluconeogensis. Avocados are one, but they're also a phytoprogesterone, and not cheap. OTOH, maybe eating the meat fats would be OK, if you used red meat? So, cheap shuck steak/stew meat, slow-cook for a few hours with spices, and collect the broth/tallow afterwards. Then use that as a fat source.
Also, be active as much as possible. E.G., a workout twice a day plan, using light weights and lots of movement. Half hour or so, nothing much. Maybe even three times a day, take a walk at lunch time (counts for this sort of workout.) Take the stairs, even to just take the stairs. (EG, I'm on 23rd floor, I'll go to the 30th floor just to move. Also, gives you the chance to practice a hip wiggle. ;-) Stairs make the awareness easy, you feel the hips move. Piriformis, mostly.)
I don't think I have access to the 30th floor... I'm not really GOING there, I'm just walking, you know?
(And yes, I'm still that much of a lard@$$.)
Nuts are way out there, BTW, thanks to the EPA ensuring no water goes down the mountains to the California farmland (Google EPA Snail Darter for info.) Those are a good source of fats... Oils and butters are worse, and STAY AWAY from Peanut butter! Peanuts are legumes, not nuts, and high in Linoleic acid (fat that takes forever to remove from the body - one+ year half-life in the body.) LA is also common in Pork and Chicken fat, so DO NOT eat skin or fats. (There goes my bacon. :-( )
And since you're on fish oil anyway, make sure to count it into your diet. Timed correctly, it can help.
E.G., you eat Carbs and Protein, or Protein and Fat, but never Carbs and Fat (Carbs spike insulin, body stores energy as fat; fat = high energy for storage, and with the carb rush, you'll then want to eat more, or feel hungry, faster. And problem is worse for some ethnicities, I'm told: Irish and Italian can handle carbs better, others should avoid carbs more. )
Don't know if this is any help.... I hope it is.
Are you near farmland? Or even in a situation you could do some "microfarming"? Chickens, say, for fresh eggs? Rabbits, maybe, for meat? Maybe a goat for milk? Etc. Or maybe a shared or co-op farm. Just tossing ideas, in case anything is useful...
-Dianna