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(11-03-2016, 10:06 PM)Dianna1395 Wrote:  
(09-03-2016, 06:57 PM)Dianna1395 Wrote:  
(09-03-2016, 02:51 AM)Lotus Wrote:  
(08-03-2016, 10:23 PM)Dianna1395 Wrote:  
(16-02-2016, 02:11 AM)Lotus Wrote:  Hi spanky, happyme and crew.

Reduced sperm (quite possibly permanently). Dustasteride inhibits two types of 5 alpha reductase (type I & II), it'll tank total and free T. It looks like it has a surge (of T) in the first 30-45 days, most likely from negative feedback of lutenizing hormone. This surge (or flare as they say) also happens to a lesser extent when starting PM, and from my experience BO did the same thing at first. Lowered T can have a strong impact on libido, lowered free T will impact penis size.
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Lotus,
That makes the mad scientist in me wonder, could we "manage" free T, increase E, and in essence make the best of both worlds?
I somewhat doubt it, but, would be interesting to look into it.
Eventually, though, the E kills the T (Negative feedback on APT loop, I think it is; suppresses Leutenizing hormone, per female cycle.)

But with our cyclic approaches anyway, might be able to accomplish something. :-)

Your thoughts?
-Dianna


Hey there demonid P, what up B?. (j/k) Lmao Wink

Ok I dig where you're going, and I've spent amount of time thinking about this lol, meaning the idea of boosting free T to benefit biosynthesis of E. Btw, Pharma E2 inhibits DHT (I don't know the exact amount as of yet, (I will though lol). Rolleyes

Negative feedback is a good example, in initial treatment phase some meds increase lutenizing hormone before it (med) stabilizes (30-45 days). To me, this says the science is there to manipulate meds.

Something I'm close to understanding is using our diurnal rhythms to promote growth stages that can boost feminization (similar to some animal based studies). And I think amino acids & peptides in combination with a few other things I'll mention later will trigger this boost.

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Hi, Lotus,
I'm probably going in a different direction from you on the Free T line of thought.
I think it would be great to have the Free T for playing with the woman (a woman), and the breasts grow in from aromatization of the Free T. So, control the DHT by kill 5-Alpha-R, which would likely mean Dutas... (But I need to review if that kills T production, or just wipes out the 5Ar). Then using our other goodies, like GTE, Spearmint, Red Clover, PM, WP, induce an environment high in aromatase, high in E, but still forcing E into the system. (How to induce high LH is a question; thinking I'd have to use Clomiphene citrate to rev up the leydig cells... Or, find a way to stimulate ONLY LH, as FSH will cause other, unwanted effects.

It's indicated here though (not a scientific site, though: http://androcycle.com/post-cycle-therapy/ - I don't have much capacity to do research from behind the NWO corporate firewalls, category "illegal drugs" is not allowed. Effing tyrants, both corp and DEA/FedGov.)

Or maybe, from http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/female-infertility/basics/treatment/con-20033618 - there are a few "shortcuts" to my preferred end goal? Ah, if only... (there were this site in 1990, the internet had spread to Thailand, the gov't wasn't busy coralling us like cattle, and my parents weren't self-righteous abusive pricks...) ;-)

OTOH... Maybe using something else to block FSH, or to eliminate it, would work? And as an add-on, what about finding a means to ensure Prostate stays "normal" and thus allow for a female experience even with the estrogen...? Never thought about that before, but since Prostate is tied to DHT, prob'ly not. But maybe there's something like Clometipene (?) which would not block the creation of the T, but rather interfere with the connectors, so the T cannot be used.... But then that would affect everywhere else, too. So, no erections while on the meds. :-P

Easier to just get an inflatable phallus! :-)

-Dianna

So, the answer was already lurking here...
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=17436&page=329

Lots said "@ Hannah, absolutely, by inhibiting LH it suppresses T, which as I stasted before, this would upreglaues FSH to synthesize (make more) estradiol. Piperine mixed in with_____ fill in the blank lol, red veggies would be my choice."
@ (05-02-2016 08:59 PM) - I can't find the original message! Tongue

That tells me the whole idea is just ridiculous, though. :-(

Guess I have to keep dreaming, and now I understand why so many Pros are using implants. Mechanical means to look female, and keep the functionality for the "film" roles (and likely other fun, too.)

-Dianna

FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) aromatizes, the LH (lutenizing hormone) signal can be turned up or down using certain supplements..........fish oil as an example. Dopamine and insulin can also impact this process as an example. If a body builder can use pro-aromatase supps in their cycle what's to say T (or free T) in this theory can't be utilized?.

I suggested this approach about 2 1/2 years ago, we talked about it but I don't think anyone used it. I used periodically when I tank my T..........when depression kicks in.

I see DHEA, PC, vitex, fish oil, Leptin, (simple sugars) as some food/supplements that could be used towards this application. But, I also believe if we can displace more free hormones, fatty acids, etc, trapped in SHBG and total sex steroids we'd see huge gains as similar to the type you'd see in BB world.
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DHT - by Happyme - 04-01-2016, 04:51 PM
RE: DHT - by jannet.duff - 04-01-2016, 05:27 PM
RE: DHT - by Huggy - 04-01-2016, 05:48 PM
RE: DHT - by Happyme - 04-01-2016, 08:50 PM
RE: DHT - by julieTG - 04-01-2016, 09:08 PM
RE: DHT - by The First Aria - 04-01-2016, 09:18 PM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 04-01-2016, 09:58 PM
RE: DHT - by The First Aria - 04-01-2016, 11:56 PM
RE: DHT - by prostatenipple - 09-02-2023, 01:03 PM
RE: DHT - by BlackButterfly - 09-02-2023, 03:14 PM
RE: DHT - by prostatenipple - 09-02-2023, 04:26 PM
RE: DHT - by Teddy - 09-02-2023, 04:54 PM
RE: DHT - by prostatenipple - 09-02-2023, 05:00 PM
RE: DHT - by julieTG - 04-01-2016, 09:51 PM
RE: DHT - by Tanya Marie Squirrel - 04-01-2016, 10:13 PM
RE: DHT - by Happyme - 04-01-2016, 10:24 PM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 04-01-2016, 11:11 PM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 04-01-2016, 11:29 PM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 04-01-2016, 11:37 PM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 05-01-2016, 12:03 AM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 05-01-2016, 12:10 AM
RE: DHT - by lilmikey - 05-01-2016, 07:55 AM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 05-01-2016, 08:31 AM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 05-01-2016, 08:36 AM
RE: DHT - by julieTG - 05-01-2016, 10:04 AM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 05-01-2016, 02:13 PM
RE: DHT - by julieTG - 05-01-2016, 02:27 PM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 05-01-2016, 11:09 PM
RE: DHT - by Mindy2017 - 06-01-2016, 10:35 PM
RE: DHT - by Scotti - 13-02-2016, 01:50 PM
RE: DHT - by AbiDrew85 - 13-02-2016, 04:50 PM
RE: DHT - by Scotti - 19-02-2016, 10:34 PM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 13-02-2016, 08:49 PM
RE: DHT - by spanky (aka Lola) - 05-01-2016, 11:17 PM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 05-01-2016, 11:54 PM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 06-01-2016, 12:06 AM
RE: DHT - by Alison59 - 06-01-2016, 01:28 PM
RE: DHT - by Huggy - 06-01-2016, 10:25 PM
RE: DHT - by Alison59 - 07-01-2016, 12:51 AM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 07-01-2016, 06:14 AM
RE: DHT - by Scotti - 09-01-2016, 01:12 PM
RE: DHT - by Marcy - 09-02-2016, 05:09 AM
RE: DHT - by Huggy - 06-01-2016, 12:16 AM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 06-01-2016, 12:30 AM
RE: DHT - by Huggy - 06-01-2016, 12:53 AM
RE: DHT - by The First Aria - 07-01-2016, 01:11 AM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 07-01-2016, 06:32 AM
RE: DHT - by Happyme - 08-01-2016, 09:10 PM
RE: DHT - by xxd - 17-01-2016, 03:39 AM
RE: DHT - by Sasha Star - 11-02-2016, 09:40 PM
RE: DHT - by Dana Mantra Eon - 12-02-2016, 10:58 AM
RE: DHT - by AbiDrew85 - 12-02-2016, 06:47 PM
RE: DHT - by Sasha Star - 12-02-2016, 07:54 PM
RE: DHT - by AbiDrew85 - 12-02-2016, 08:40 PM
RE: DHT - by spanky (aka Lola) - 13-02-2016, 05:19 PM
RE: DHT - by AbiDrew85 - 13-02-2016, 05:31 PM
RE: DHT - by spanky (aka Lola) - 13-02-2016, 08:09 PM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 13-02-2016, 09:01 PM
RE: DHT - by spanky (aka Lola) - 13-02-2016, 11:49 PM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 16-02-2016, 02:11 AM
RE: DHT - by AbiDrew85 - 16-02-2016, 09:43 AM
RE: DHT - by Dianna1395 - 08-03-2016, 10:23 PM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 09-03-2016, 02:51 AM
RE: DHT - by Dianna1395 - 09-03-2016, 06:57 PM
RE: DHT - by Dianna1395 - 11-03-2016, 10:06 PM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 12-03-2016, 01:36 AM
RE: DHT - by The First Aria - 16-02-2016, 02:52 AM
RE: DHT - by spanky (aka Lola) - 16-02-2016, 02:05 PM
RE: DHT - by AbiDrew85 - 16-02-2016, 03:21 PM
RE: DHT - by spanky (aka Lola) - 16-02-2016, 03:26 PM
RE: DHT - by The First Aria - 16-02-2016, 04:31 PM
RE: DHT - by AbiDrew85 - 17-02-2016, 01:45 AM
RE: DHT - by spanky (aka Lola) - 17-02-2016, 12:42 PM
RE: DHT - by AlexisM - 25-02-2016, 05:59 AM
RE: DHT - by Katie - 20-02-2016, 03:13 PM
RE: DHT - by Dana Mantra Eon - 24-02-2016, 01:48 AM
RE: DHT - by spanky (aka Lola) - 07-03-2016, 01:17 PM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 08-03-2016, 05:28 AM
RE: DHT - by spanky (aka Lola) - 08-03-2016, 10:52 AM
RE: DHT - by Huggy - 08-03-2016, 10:38 AM
RE: DHT - by spanky (aka Lola) - 08-03-2016, 11:25 PM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 09-03-2016, 03:58 AM
RE: DHT - by jannet.duff - 09-03-2016, 07:53 PM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 12-03-2016, 07:57 PM
RE: DHT - by AcaciaLynn8294 - 16-03-2016, 05:11 PM
RE: DHT - by BlackButterfly - 10-02-2023, 05:39 AM
RE: DHT - by Lotus - 10-02-2023, 05:58 AM
RE: DHT - by prostatenipple - 10-02-2023, 10:26 AM



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