10-12-2015, 04:28 PM
Hi Bobbi
Thought that for me the weight issue was as much a part of being limited by the CFS as the NBE, but that's clearly not the issue for you and Jean. I do sooooo wish I could be more active!
It doesn't seem to be a major problem for most here as it generally seems possible to control weight using normal methods and still do NBE. But I wonder if for a few of us we need slightly higher levels of testosterone to keep everything working properly? I had to work really hard to get into the NBE zone and everything I have learned and experienced seems to indicate that I am one of those with higher DHT/testosterone levels. Had to take very high doses to beat the beasties down, but once I had I started to get real results. But then I noticed a negative effect on my weight loss programme which was previously going well. Plus my fatigue levels began rising again, and if I am honest I got a dose of the glums too.
I don't know, and I am throwing the question out there, but for those of us with this specific issue I wonder if a more nuanced approach may be necessary? Can we design a programme that takes care not to suppress too much the higher metabolic rate and muscle under the influence of T so we can loose the weight and keep fit, but still moderate things enough to allow the affects of oestrogen to give us the curves we want?
Don't want to hijack this thread which is more about exercise so will also pose this question on the other thread about weight loss. But any input would be greatly appreciated.
Huggy.
Thought that for me the weight issue was as much a part of being limited by the CFS as the NBE, but that's clearly not the issue for you and Jean. I do sooooo wish I could be more active!
It doesn't seem to be a major problem for most here as it generally seems possible to control weight using normal methods and still do NBE. But I wonder if for a few of us we need slightly higher levels of testosterone to keep everything working properly? I had to work really hard to get into the NBE zone and everything I have learned and experienced seems to indicate that I am one of those with higher DHT/testosterone levels. Had to take very high doses to beat the beasties down, but once I had I started to get real results. But then I noticed a negative effect on my weight loss programme which was previously going well. Plus my fatigue levels began rising again, and if I am honest I got a dose of the glums too.
I don't know, and I am throwing the question out there, but for those of us with this specific issue I wonder if a more nuanced approach may be necessary? Can we design a programme that takes care not to suppress too much the higher metabolic rate and muscle under the influence of T so we can loose the weight and keep fit, but still moderate things enough to allow the affects of oestrogen to give us the curves we want?
Don't want to hijack this thread which is more about exercise so will also pose this question on the other thread about weight loss. But any input would be greatly appreciated.
Huggy.