28-07-2015, 12:16 AM
Hi Dianna
What can I say? Wimmin, gotta love 'em. Complex and wondrous creatures that they are and there is nothing quite like their lovely soft curves. In fact they are so good so we want a few for ourselves! But yeh, life gets a lot more complicated when they are around too :-)
Firstly I must emphasise that I am still very much on the learning curve myself with NBE and because of my CFS (Chronic Fatigue) I find the techo-jargon very hard to get my head around. That said, I have been taking copious notes and I will put my neck out and share a few details I have noticed that seem to be becoming accepted as solid info. However, we should keep in mind that these can actually be quite dangerous substances we are playing with here and not understanding the potential risks with what we are doing to ourselves and blithely popping pills is a foolish thing to do.
Perhaps one of the biggest details that rarely seems to get mentioned is that unlike pharma meds which are often single isolated chemicals, these are derived from living plants and this makes a HUGE difference. They are complex substances and will have multiple components which can often be very effective at countering the "good" ingredient we are trying to use. Saw Palmento seems to be a good example of this principle. Was first thought to be a top performer, but individual experience and scientific studies has shown that for some people it can even be counter productive for NBE. For me, I did seem to get an initial kick from it but that soon settled back down again and couldn't honestly say I was getting any effect in the end. But we are all different I suppose.
Can't comment on Pygeum but current thinking seems to be to use Reishi and WP together. To quote; "Reishi and WP are used for two different purposes, WP is for converting free testosterone to estradiol (estrogen) through an enzyme called aromatase. Reishi is used for controlling DHT through another enzyme called 5 alpha redutase, and DHT is the strongest androgen." Speaking personally, I have just moved over to this combo and in less than a week I have had clear indications it is working!
Suggest 2x pills 3x a day. Too much in one hit just gets wasted (and might even load up the liver too much) and spreading out over the day will have a greater effect as the body will be exposed for longer.
For body hair, I have been giving a Remington I-Light Pro a try. Bought mine (cheap) second hand off Ebay and just factored in the price of a new bulb. What can I say? It's not like one treatment and you are done, but for me it definitely seems to be working and apart from a few sensitive areas it's virtually painless.
Seems that re-growing head hair is not a sure thing. Some do report improvement but mostly when it's gone... its gone. However, I have had a few thoughts which I have been mulling over which may be worth further investigation. After all there is a pharma treatment that is proven to help. I wonder if there is a more natural way of getting a similar effect?
You are probably not going to want to hear this, but at it's most basic, big muscles means more strength. Small muscles won't have the same 'explosive' strength as big muscles. It's a trade off. But at worse that just means adjusting our approach and to use technique more that brute strength. But let's be honest, half the worlds population have been getting along very well not having the strength of an ox and they don't seem to mind too much?
I am not talking from experience here you understand, but some have commented that once the muscles have shrunk to more female proportions and the body has stabilised to female levels of hormones, it is possible to build up strength again but under the discipline of oestrogen the muscles stay at more female proportions. That said, a well thought out exercise regime focusing on lean muscle development should make it possible to retain quite a bit of strength, and going for the "fit girl" look would tick a few of my boxes! Also will be a great help in increasing growth hormone levels (definitely worth looking into) and general toning and getting rid of flab.
As for hips, I started a few weeks ago on Aguaje with a little Maca. I haven't measured yet, but my botty is definitely squidgier!
Agree with you that DHT is the enemy. There is a ton of info on sqelching DHT here. Controlling it is more complex and subtle than first appears, but it IS do-able.
A suggestion if I may? You clearly have a lot going on at the moment. Relationships, work, health, and loading on top of that NBE is I suspect only adding to the pressure? How about, giving yourself permission to take a time out? Take control again. Could be a couple of weeks or a couple of months, whatever you feel you need? But then use that time to get yourself into a relatively stable situation, in a practical sense, but also psychologically/emotionally? You can't make good decisions when you're under so much stress you can't think straight.
Also, use the break to concentrate on getting fit and well. You may want to check out some of the NBE food suggestions that are made here? A health diet that grows boobs? Can't knock that. And the fitter and healthier you are the more effective your final NBE plan will be. And just as importantly, use that time to re-educate yourself with the latest info that is coming through here so that when you decide you get back into the game you will be able to have a much clearer idea of what it is you actually want and have a much better idea of how to achieve it?
Anyway, waffled on for far too long so going to stop here. Hope some of this helps?
What can I say? Wimmin, gotta love 'em. Complex and wondrous creatures that they are and there is nothing quite like their lovely soft curves. In fact they are so good so we want a few for ourselves! But yeh, life gets a lot more complicated when they are around too :-)
Firstly I must emphasise that I am still very much on the learning curve myself with NBE and because of my CFS (Chronic Fatigue) I find the techo-jargon very hard to get my head around. That said, I have been taking copious notes and I will put my neck out and share a few details I have noticed that seem to be becoming accepted as solid info. However, we should keep in mind that these can actually be quite dangerous substances we are playing with here and not understanding the potential risks with what we are doing to ourselves and blithely popping pills is a foolish thing to do.
Perhaps one of the biggest details that rarely seems to get mentioned is that unlike pharma meds which are often single isolated chemicals, these are derived from living plants and this makes a HUGE difference. They are complex substances and will have multiple components which can often be very effective at countering the "good" ingredient we are trying to use. Saw Palmento seems to be a good example of this principle. Was first thought to be a top performer, but individual experience and scientific studies has shown that for some people it can even be counter productive for NBE. For me, I did seem to get an initial kick from it but that soon settled back down again and couldn't honestly say I was getting any effect in the end. But we are all different I suppose.
Can't comment on Pygeum but current thinking seems to be to use Reishi and WP together. To quote; "Reishi and WP are used for two different purposes, WP is for converting free testosterone to estradiol (estrogen) through an enzyme called aromatase. Reishi is used for controlling DHT through another enzyme called 5 alpha redutase, and DHT is the strongest androgen." Speaking personally, I have just moved over to this combo and in less than a week I have had clear indications it is working!
Suggest 2x pills 3x a day. Too much in one hit just gets wasted (and might even load up the liver too much) and spreading out over the day will have a greater effect as the body will be exposed for longer.
For body hair, I have been giving a Remington I-Light Pro a try. Bought mine (cheap) second hand off Ebay and just factored in the price of a new bulb. What can I say? It's not like one treatment and you are done, but for me it definitely seems to be working and apart from a few sensitive areas it's virtually painless.
Seems that re-growing head hair is not a sure thing. Some do report improvement but mostly when it's gone... its gone. However, I have had a few thoughts which I have been mulling over which may be worth further investigation. After all there is a pharma treatment that is proven to help. I wonder if there is a more natural way of getting a similar effect?
You are probably not going to want to hear this, but at it's most basic, big muscles means more strength. Small muscles won't have the same 'explosive' strength as big muscles. It's a trade off. But at worse that just means adjusting our approach and to use technique more that brute strength. But let's be honest, half the worlds population have been getting along very well not having the strength of an ox and they don't seem to mind too much?
I am not talking from experience here you understand, but some have commented that once the muscles have shrunk to more female proportions and the body has stabilised to female levels of hormones, it is possible to build up strength again but under the discipline of oestrogen the muscles stay at more female proportions. That said, a well thought out exercise regime focusing on lean muscle development should make it possible to retain quite a bit of strength, and going for the "fit girl" look would tick a few of my boxes! Also will be a great help in increasing growth hormone levels (definitely worth looking into) and general toning and getting rid of flab.
As for hips, I started a few weeks ago on Aguaje with a little Maca. I haven't measured yet, but my botty is definitely squidgier!
Agree with you that DHT is the enemy. There is a ton of info on sqelching DHT here. Controlling it is more complex and subtle than first appears, but it IS do-able.
A suggestion if I may? You clearly have a lot going on at the moment. Relationships, work, health, and loading on top of that NBE is I suspect only adding to the pressure? How about, giving yourself permission to take a time out? Take control again. Could be a couple of weeks or a couple of months, whatever you feel you need? But then use that time to get yourself into a relatively stable situation, in a practical sense, but also psychologically/emotionally? You can't make good decisions when you're under so much stress you can't think straight.
Also, use the break to concentrate on getting fit and well. You may want to check out some of the NBE food suggestions that are made here? A health diet that grows boobs? Can't knock that. And the fitter and healthier you are the more effective your final NBE plan will be. And just as importantly, use that time to re-educate yourself with the latest info that is coming through here so that when you decide you get back into the game you will be able to have a much clearer idea of what it is you actually want and have a much better idea of how to achieve it?
Anyway, waffled on for far too long so going to stop here. Hope some of this helps?

