[Lotus]

Please let me add this: A "club" was proposed that was geared towards non-trans men, and that pissed off the trans women. Honestly, I don't see why trans women would object to something they so openly "reject", meaning owning a man card. Eve doesn't want a club, her policy is not to limit one's opinion or options. Like I said, we have trans centered threads, (at least 3, maybe 4 sections). There's no reason to begrudge a non-trans section, (simply avoid the section if so desired).

Lotus,

Is your intention then to create another subforum in the genetic male section that will be titled "non-transitioning males" or something to that effect and this new subforum will be open to all?

A large percentage is supporting it, which tells us there's a need for it. The decision is Eve's call. Thank you for all the input, and thank you iaboy for running it by the group first to gauge the interest. Either you'll here from Eve directly or she'll pass it along to me to announce the result.

Thanks.