24-03-2015, 05:55 PM
(24-03-2015, 08:14 AM)34TripleD Wrote: Hello (= hope all are doing well!!!
I have a question for you, Lotus =D hope you're available =]]
I remember months ago you recommending to take evening primrose oil as an aromatase and pumpkin seed oil as an anti-androgen (both in the capsule form).
i have been taking them religiously as recommended, sometimes upping the doses, sometimes lowering them. I'm wondering, should I take time off and stop them all together? I'm on my PM break for maybe another month or 2 btw. are these supplements any different from taking say a multi vitamin or biotin, etc. do you have to stop taking them from time to time?
Right now i'm taking: multivitamin, Evening P.O., Pumpkin S.O., biotin, magnesium, B-complex. Do you recommend I stop any or keep everything going? (minus the PM, i know you need breaks with that one, which i'm one)
i know ur not a Dr or anything, but i feel u give the most soundest and clearest and most helpful advise tbh! hope you can help!!! Much love!!
Good luck to you on your progress xoxo
Hi 34,
EPO should've given you swelling, help elimate DHT and help synthesize aromatase. Biotin will also help with FAS (fatty acid synthase). Omega 3's will help reduce inflammation, if you've got too much omega 6's you'll see (or get) unnecessary inflammatory response. Too much PGE2 (prostaglandin) in response from inflammation pushes this response ratio, in other words.....stop growth potential.
Imo balance the omegas, (stop the EPO for 2 weeks) add in omega 3 (chia seeds) 2-3 grams daily. After 2 weeks add coconut oil, 1-2 tablespoons daily. Drop the PSO, there's enough 5 ar inhibitor in EPO once you add it back.
I think you have the right components, it's just missing a few essentials, (e.g. growth hormone). Here's what I mean:
Effects of growth hormone on adipose tissue.
Abstract
Physiological effects of growth hormone (GH) extend beyond the stimulation of linear growth. These include important metabolic effects upon adipose tissue. GH affects both proliferation and differentiation of preadipocytes, although this varies between clonal cell lines and preadipocyte cultures. Both preadipocytes and mature adipocytes possess specific GH receptors. GH may mediate its actions via these receptors, but some effects are indirectly mediated through the GH-mediated secretion of insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) within adipose tissue. GH promotes lipolysis via inhibition of lipoprotein lipase, which hydrolyzes triglycerides in the circulation to make them available for triglyceride accumulation in adipose tissue. GH also stimulates hormone sensitive lipase (HSL), the rate-limiting step for release of stored triglyceride in adipocytes (lipolysis). As GH becomes utilized for various "non-growth" concerns (see Figure 1), awareness of the metabolic effects on adipocytes is important to understand the clinical effects seen with GH therapy.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11086655
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This website below gives an excellent summary on how to go about proceeding:
Stimulating the Body’s Production of Human Growth Hormone
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/articl...uction.htm
I'll post other info on inducible nitric oxide synthase, and how it modulates lipolysis in adipocytes (The basis for building breast tissue), really interesting stuff.
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iaboy and gamer, what's (a) the simple explanation of inactivating DHT?, (i dunno) picture a free loading uncle named DHT, hey lol, work with me!

Now he's......I-N-A-C-T-I-V-E (sorry, it's the best I got today).
