31-03-2015, 03:08 AM
(31-03-2015, 02:30 AM)sfem Wrote:Well, I wasn't EXACTLY thinking in religious terms, just in belief terms. Criticism is someone belief opposed to someone else's; realism, again, it CAN be what you PERCEIVE as real; voyeurism, I forgot what I came up for that one; activism, an activist postulates a belief they have and hopes others see it their way; catechism, okay, THAT ones to do with religion. Well, I've never heard of it used to speak of ANYTHING else but religion.(31-03-2015, 01:35 AM)WantAPair Wrote:(31-03-2015, 12:34 AM)sfem Wrote: Wantapair, are you suggesting that a criticism is some kind of religious act? How about realism, or voyeurism, or activism, or catechism, or even schism? Or any of a great many other verbs turned into nouns that reflect that verb?Boy! Those are a lot of isms!! Thisism, thatism, ism, ism, ism! All I am saying is, give peace a chance!
Adding ism to a word doesn't make it religiously oriented or even relevant to religions. Transgenderism is fine as an action noun, although perhaps transgender activism might be a more descriptive way of phrasing it (still an -ism, still non-religious).
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/-ism?s=t if anybody wants a (dubious) reference.
Fire&Ice, I had the same reaction to B's use of the gender binary, but decided it wasn't worth replying to. Much like B's denunciation of those of us on here who haven't walked the exact same path as B or come to the same conclusions as B. B's penchant for mixing his views of those of us on the forum with whatever source material he quotes, then retreating to saying "I was only referring to the original article" (or something similar) whenever his point is challenged in a way he cannot answer, just makes me stop reading. So do his personal attacks, and I will not give any semblance of credibility to his position by taking his double-dog dare of dragging my personal relationships into it. If he feels his situation resonates with his point, fine. Far be it from me to say it doesn't. B is the authority on B, not me. B can judge someone else guilty then demand they prove their innocence if he wants. I said my piece, then let others have their turn. Regarding the current spat, I am not particularly inclined to find the original article reliable anyway. I have no reasonable way to ascertain the true facts of the situation (assuming the entire piece isn't a fabrication to create a column and sell ad space). Even if it is taken at face value, as I previously posted, it is necessarily highly incomplete because it does not have the other party's perspective or narrative in it. B can stand on the two-legged stool if he likes. I'll pass.
Well, y'see, THIS is why people from other parts of the planet have such a hard time speaking our lingo, it's got so many contradicting rules that it makes it nearly impossible to learn if you're not hatched here. I before E, except after C, but ONLY in certain words!!
To answer the question, no, I'm not saying ALL ism's are religiously based, I knew there were examples of others, I just didn't want to bring them all into it; being one who plays with words, I could've been here all night tying lexiconic knots (OOO!! I just quoined another word!!), and I was very tired and just wanted to get to bed as soon as I was done writing my thoughts. But, in a way, each of those you listed, with the possible exception of, "schism", has SOMETHING to do with a kind of belief.
Many of them can be used in a religious context, but them again, so can red, ball, statue, coin, greed, light, etc. They do not have anything to do with belief. I did provide a reference. I also believe (not in any religious sense) the word you were looking for was lexical. Quoined is not a word; coined would have been.
Quoined IS a word! Notice that, when you type it here, the computer doesn't mark it as a word that doesn't exist! Working in the print industry, as I have for 15 years, you learn that in the early days of printing, they'd use individual letters picked from a huge rack of all the characters to be used in what ever you were going to print and you had to hand set each and every one!! Then, once you had your particular article set in the bed, in order to keep everything tightly in place, you'd have to frame it with these metal braces called, quoins, and to make sure it was firmly in place in the printing bed, you used a quoin key to tighten them up! It looks like a metal T that is a bit longer across the top than it is down the middle. So, the term, to quoin a phrase, comes from that. I've used one a number of times.

