[Lotus]

O.k. Lotus, here's a question. As you know, from our personal chat's, my T level is at 455.9. If I figure it right, that is a little short of 1/2 or normal range of free T. My Prolactin is about 9.7, which is a little above 1/2 of range for free Pro.

Knowing I would like about a 40 C cup, and maybe experience lactation. I know I have to get thru budding and enlarge breast's a little more. (Right now, a solid 38 c loose 40 B.)

Question is .... Pumpkin seed oil Caps for overall decrease of T, or push White Peony for aromatase? Or should I use Reishi instead of Pumpkin Seed Oil? There are many here who feel if you drop T and convert what little Free T is left to Estrogen, that's the way to go.

The reason I posted in public, rather than PM's is I think your answer could help many more than just myself.

So color me "perplexed" and confused! ! !

There's a few schools of thought on this, and science doesn't make it any less easier for one to decide on an effective approach. The 2 to 5 years it takes to achieve measurable results is a pain in the ass quite honestly. Besides, if we find the right steroid pathway to produce a safe/expedited/effective way that traditional science says otherwise why wouldn't we listen??.

Of the androgens produced in our bodies DHT (dihydrotestosterone) is the one that prevents aromatase and "can not" convert to estradiol. So even though the concentration of free testosterone is lower think how many target tissues it affects (it's vast).

Now 5 alpha-reductase is another key issue, for those that don't know that's the enzyme that will covert Free T to DHT. This is why anti-androgens (in this case it's called 5 alpha reductase inhibitors supplements/meds) are used to prevent that conversion from taking place. Now I don't think its been effectively demonstrated, (at least to my knowledge) that if you simply use a pro-aromatase before 5 AR does its nasty business you then are able to catch that conversion process (firstly) and thereby making it possible to go directly to E2-Estradiol.

I'll give you an example in a classic gynecomastia case, a doctor sees a patient with early onset gyno, labs are ordered and test results show low T, so the good doctor prescribes DEPO T injections. Keep in mind free T nor estradiol levels where not checked, had this been done in the first place total T wouldn't have been the issue, free T and estradiol would have been elevated, and if an anti-aromatase medication was prescribed to the treatment plan the gyno would have been stopped.

Let me please ask this before we go further.......What do you think the outcome was was from prescribing massive amounts of Testosterone injections (3 month course) to this individual?.