16-06-2014, 04:24 AM
(This post was last modified: 16-06-2014, 04:40 AM by SarahSchilling.)
LOL, for a male with breasts, you sure do like dividing everything up into very specific categories.
It seems silly to me, as people are going to do what they choose to do regardless. The idea that someone looking to grow breasts with herbs would have never considered or heard of people taking the pharma alternative seems far fetched.
As for these *gasp* "black market sources" of pharma drugs, they are imported from countries where said drugs do not require a prescription. Granted, the level of regulation in each country is a crapshoot...but to act as if herbs have better regulation is laughable, especially when it comes to imported PM from Thailand. Yeah, that's definitely as advertised, although it's unregulated. On the other hand, estradiol from India could be be anything, although it is regulated. Please. Being a consumer requires a certain amount of faith in any case, as even regulatory agencies are susceptible to corruption.
As for the "conjugated estrogen" nonsense, I haven't read of anyone taking that in quite some time. Drugs like premarin were proven to be dangerous, and are scarcely used today. However, the studies that proved it to be unsafe are often used to declare all animal based estrogens as being unsafe. As Eva said, pretty much everyone takes estradiol hemihydrate or estradiol valerate, which are bio-identical HUMAN hormones, as opposed to plant based phytoestrogens. Which of these substances would be more natural to find in substantial amounts in a human body? The term natural is more a matter of perspective than anything.
I don't think either herbs or pharma are very safe without regular blood testing. That doesn't stop anyone from doing whatever they please. Such are the inherent dangers of free will.
What exactly did this endo do to you anyway?
I'm sorry for whatever it was. Mine was kind of difficult as well...
Oh, and don't take this post as me being bitchy or disliking you Lotus. I just have a headache, post in an angsty manner at times, and am a little sensitive about popular misconceptions regarding my favorite drugs.
You do a great service to this forum, and if you want another subsection, that's fine by me!
It seems silly to me, as people are going to do what they choose to do regardless. The idea that someone looking to grow breasts with herbs would have never considered or heard of people taking the pharma alternative seems far fetched.
As for these *gasp* "black market sources" of pharma drugs, they are imported from countries where said drugs do not require a prescription. Granted, the level of regulation in each country is a crapshoot...but to act as if herbs have better regulation is laughable, especially when it comes to imported PM from Thailand. Yeah, that's definitely as advertised, although it's unregulated. On the other hand, estradiol from India could be be anything, although it is regulated. Please. Being a consumer requires a certain amount of faith in any case, as even regulatory agencies are susceptible to corruption.
As for the "conjugated estrogen" nonsense, I haven't read of anyone taking that in quite some time. Drugs like premarin were proven to be dangerous, and are scarcely used today. However, the studies that proved it to be unsafe are often used to declare all animal based estrogens as being unsafe. As Eva said, pretty much everyone takes estradiol hemihydrate or estradiol valerate, which are bio-identical HUMAN hormones, as opposed to plant based phytoestrogens. Which of these substances would be more natural to find in substantial amounts in a human body? The term natural is more a matter of perspective than anything.
I don't think either herbs or pharma are very safe without regular blood testing. That doesn't stop anyone from doing whatever they please. Such are the inherent dangers of free will.
What exactly did this endo do to you anyway?
I'm sorry for whatever it was. Mine was kind of difficult as well...
Oh, and don't take this post as me being bitchy or disliking you Lotus. I just have a headache, post in an angsty manner at times, and am a little sensitive about popular misconceptions regarding my favorite drugs.
You do a great service to this forum, and if you want another subsection, that's fine by me!