[AnnieBL]

I think that there is a definition problem here. What do we mean by "natural'? For myself I would take this to include the use of hormones bio-identical to human hormones, but I would regard as un-natural not only the use of truly synthetic hormones such as DES, but also the use of Premarin or bovine ovary which are natural hormonal products derived from non-human animal sources, are not bio-identical to human hormones and cannot be regarded as herbs or dietary supplements. Very often it seems that people draw the dividing line between 'natural' and , presumably, 'unnatural' as being between non-prescription and prescription, which makes little sense when the line between the categories varies in different countries, and a number of prescription drugs are not synthetic in origin. Note also that those here who have ended up taking prescription hormones usually started off with products generally accepted as 'natural' because of their availability and presumed relative safety, and usually continue some use of these 'natural' products.

It seems that many of us who start off seeking breast enlargement using the comparatively readily available 'natural' means find ourselves before we know it on a slippery slope leading towards transition, and once on the way down that slope are less purist in our approach, particularly once prescription hormones become legitimately available to some of us.

So what do we mean by NBE?