Sammie, and your masculine other part,
That to me is quite the most impressive posting that I have encountered on this board, and I go along with it almost completely. You have expressed so well many of the things that I have tried to say or have wanted to say. The only slight reservation I have is that I do not actually see you as disagreeing with Tibetan. Being the 'Why and Wherefore' type of person that I am, I think she has done us a valuable service in pointing out the reasons why wives may have real difficulties in coping with their husbands' CD and explaining, not I think excusing, their behaviour in some cases.
I think your posting may have had a particularly powerful effect on me because I read it immediately after spending part of a broken night reading 'Annabel' by Kathleen Winters. I am finding this a fascinating book, beautifully written, and far too good to hurry through, so I am less than quarter of the way through so far. It deals very perceptively with some of the same issues, but as part of a much broader canvas, and with great respect and understanding of her characters of all genders. I was also powerfully affected by the You Tube link in another recent thread of yours which I feel may have also influenced your own posting. I found it much more influential than another You Tube link in a different fairly recent thread, which however sincere came across to me as just too poised and perfect a performance with nothing for those uncertain of their gender orientation.
I have to admit that I have not tried to visit the 'ugly' site. I don't have much time for those that deliberately seek to produce such apparently polarized view points. Another comparable example is abortion debates which effectively seek to exclude all viewpoints except those of the extreme pro-lifers and extreme pro-choicers. These things are never that simple.
That to me is quite the most impressive posting that I have encountered on this board, and I go along with it almost completely. You have expressed so well many of the things that I have tried to say or have wanted to say. The only slight reservation I have is that I do not actually see you as disagreeing with Tibetan. Being the 'Why and Wherefore' type of person that I am, I think she has done us a valuable service in pointing out the reasons why wives may have real difficulties in coping with their husbands' CD and explaining, not I think excusing, their behaviour in some cases.
I think your posting may have had a particularly powerful effect on me because I read it immediately after spending part of a broken night reading 'Annabel' by Kathleen Winters. I am finding this a fascinating book, beautifully written, and far too good to hurry through, so I am less than quarter of the way through so far. It deals very perceptively with some of the same issues, but as part of a much broader canvas, and with great respect and understanding of her characters of all genders. I was also powerfully affected by the You Tube link in another recent thread of yours which I feel may have also influenced your own posting. I found it much more influential than another You Tube link in a different fairly recent thread, which however sincere came across to me as just too poised and perfect a performance with nothing for those uncertain of their gender orientation.
I have to admit that I have not tried to visit the 'ugly' site. I don't have much time for those that deliberately seek to produce such apparently polarized view points. Another comparable example is abortion debates which effectively seek to exclude all viewpoints except those of the extreme pro-lifers and extreme pro-choicers. These things are never that simple.