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Would you advise using red clover in combination with PM or it it too much? What about licorice root & PM? I seem to have stalled & need a boost (or a kick in the butt!!!!).
Thanks for all your hard work at keeping all us dummies informed. Much appreciated.

Thanks lostacres,

Considering RC and PM share some of the same phytoestrogens yes, it could be counter productive. The miroestriol's in PM is closer to E2, you'd have to consider which one has the greatest effect on the receptors. While Red Clover has a minor aromatase inhibitor (Interfere's with how much estrogen the body's tissues can make) it also has genistein which binds itself to estrogen receptor alpha (ER-alpha) same as PM.

• PM affects both receptors ER-a and ER-b by attaching itself to the sites and occupying them keeping out the harmful real estrogen. IMO, the stronger PM is rendering Red Clover ineffective, and just my opinion.

• When you add in licorice-is your goal to reduce the T or to balance the E?, a few things to consider about LR-

• Licorice root is the only herb that balances estrogen, stimulates prolactin, and blocks testosterone all at the same time. Licorice contains numerous phytoestrogenic compounds such as glabridin, glaberine, and 3-hydroxyglabrol.

• (Licorice - Anti-androgenic and activates alpha and beta estrogen receptors and blocks 5-ar )

• Licorice root is strong, meaning that's it's not to be used in excess.
  

Are you still taking PC?, nettle root comes to mind though!