[Emmy76]

I hope this helps to offer some clarity and to debunk Ms. Rice's statements.

I'm sorry, Meow, but nothing is clear. What has Ms. Rice stated that is incorrect and why?

Clara Kay

Meow, the article is quoted from ,Christine Horner, M.D.
F.A.C.S., Waking the Warrior Goddess,
Basic Health Publications, 2005

It seems you understand endocrinology which is why I'm confused, granted PM affects everybody differently but also works by targeting receptors and replacing the harmful real estrogen receptors and thereby preventing the proliferation of the cells, see attached files:

http://www.breastnexus.com/attachment.php?aid=5419
http://www.pdg.cnb.uam.es/cursos/Barcelona2002/pages/Farmac/CMU_course/ER/ERIntro.html

And I found this recently and man, I haven't seen another massage yet that targets the receptors, I think it's a release of E, try and see!
http://www.breastnexus.com/attachment.php?aid=5421

NBE isn't solely dependent on PM, so many other things to consider to help maximizing your results, bio-male, bio-female, and even some MTF, you all remember smallfry before going on HRT?

Hi Mistress~Lotus:

First and foremost, I think you should totally bump that massage link up in some threads as I think it is super crazy awesome. THANK You!!!!!! Thank you for the link for the massage technique, super neat. I will begin this new technique tonight. ☺

I think you are referencing my other post where I mentioned that PM is not working for me and not just this post about Ms. Rice. I am a bit confused about this, but thank you for your reply!

Thanks for the reply and where she got her references. I saw that in her original post, she put down 3 references but that she did not cite them. This is a common thing for people to do just to make their work seem legit and often, it goes through via fine. It was such a big issue when I published a big report and I was coerced to reference this one author who had claims that were RIDICULOUS. I was reading them and they made NO sense at all. So I went to his citations and looked up the original articles. I also went through his statistical analysis and was able to procure the raw data that he had used to come to his conclusions. I had found that 1) some of his references were made up, 2) his references were super old (this report was published in 2013 and he was referencing things from the 1960s in some cases, even though there was an abundance of new data) and 3) he used the incorrect statistical tests when analyzing his data just to get the results he wanted. Since this was a huge report and I am super anal retentive when it comes to my work and my boss is even more anal retentive and almost a psychopath when it comes to accuracy, I came to learn that citations are incredibly important and to always review the original article. Hence my weariness about Ms. Rice’s post.

I wasn’t referencing PM and ER specifically in this post and you are correct, that PM doesn’t target just 1 type of tissue, hence why some people experience changes in mood, skin, etc. But thank you for the picture diagram! It is really cool!

And yes, some estrogens have an increased potential (affinity) for binding to the receptors than others. Hence why in my example of shoe buying I tried to make everything equal, implying that we have the same type of affinity but that whichever one of us gets there first will get the shoes (bind to the receptor) first. Thank you!