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(Yesterday, 07:44 PM)Shirazmn Wrote:  @nephele keep in mind that BreasNexum (with an M) exists because genetic women wanted a space of their own (BreastNexus with an S). I am not sure how they see intersex people there, but I am sure that when BreastNexum branched off it was because GGs had problems with non GGs being around..........
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I disagree with those saying that things are getting worse. I have seen proper fights on this forum that I hope will never repeat themselves, and I think that right now this forum is living a renaissance thanks to high participation from a large number of active users.
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(Yesterday, 07:44 PM)Shirazmn Wrote:  @nephele keep in mind that BreasNexum (with an M) exists because genetic women wanted a space of their own (BreastNexus with an S). I am not sure how they see intersex people there, but I am sure that when BreastNexum branched off it was because GGs had problems with non GGs being around.

I have been insulted many times here because I wasn't trans enough for some (I am not trans, btw). I grew a pair (of boobs, obvs) and I moved on. I learned from real life the golden rule that "It's not always about you", so if I read something that could potentially occasionally incidentally marginally offend someone, I don't necessarily have the duty to step in if it doesn't really offend me. There are a lot of users here, new and old, from all walks of life, which is beautiful. We walk a grey area between cis, trans, bi, nb, etc... and it's not easy to gauge the language in a way that is always inclusive. Not everyone here is an accomplished writer and many don't even have English as a first language.
I disagree with those saying that things are getting worse. I have seen proper fights on this forum that I hope will never repeat themselves, and I think that right now this forum is living a renaissance thanks to high participation from a large number of active users.

Nexus is not welcoming. There's two reasons, its quite inactive(Was when I last visited) and they're just simply not very welcoming over there. Its the cis people problem, even most who are surface level "accepting" are not, they're tolerant and only to an extent. They tolerate and avoid. Genetic woman, biological woman, these are kinda dog whistles for excluding anything but cis sex people. 

I'm just as "genetic and biological" as anybody else. we're not non human, we're not cyborgs or animals or fungi or silicon based space aliens from zeta reticuli. My sex characteristics obey same rules of genetics and biology as all other women have, and all people for that matter. Cyborgs and silicon based aliens likely do not.

Complete invalidation of non cis sex life experience and identity and medical facts with "sex transition is impossible" is not marginally offensive, its indeed VERY offensive stance. And that attitude that you don't need to stop in when its not about you, that's exactly why all kinds of bigots are able to step on minorities all the time. Obviously, choose your battles, but if you decide to not care about noncis sex people who are somehow part of the same circles you're at, don't expect anyone to stand by you if you get in trouble either. Most cis sex allies are exactly like that, they allow all evils to happen as long as its not about themselves. This same thing happens with all minorities so its a lovely equal treatment for all of us. 

Trans- and intersex women of binary identities do not walk on any grey area. We are women, through and through. The language question is quite easy, not allow transphobia and misogyny any space at all. Zero tolerance to bs and lies, facts and even rude awakenings and hard lessons to those who refuse to get it. And forgetting about the ones who are beyond learning a goddamn thing. English isn't my first language either. Nothing's stopping people from learning it except ignorance and laziness or sheer stuopidity. None of which are on short supply.

Yea, there's plenty of newbies showing up which is awesome. But if they pull up some dumb fuckery with transphobic lies, I will step in and point at it and I'll make a fuzz about it, I'll "escalate" as much as is needed to weed it out and perhaps teach a thing or few to those willing to broaden heir horizons of what it is to be a human.

As to be a non cis sex person is very much part of the human condition. And this forum has to live by it. I want to keep the conduit open here for all closeted trans women and non binary people who are reading this. I know they're here, so many have come and gone and I want them to have a place to speak their minds and figure out how boobs work.  Rolleyes Kiss
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