Thanks Lotus. I'm thinking I might add the hops back in. I'm continuing to have nice, steady growth with E2 and spiro, but hops has always held a special vibe. Your thoughts and research are MUCH appreciated 


that could shed some light on some stalled growth. The following study's demonstrate that obesity reduces estrogen receptor alpha ( ER-a, the boob growth receptor)........its kinda like the receptor disappears when being overweight, or/ the hormones aren't finding the cell receptor(s). In other words, reducing weight (bellies) initiates more ER-a receptor bioavailability.
(07-09-2016, 12:01 AM)Lotus Wrote: Greetings BN,----------------------------------------------
I've made some discoveries about obesity and breast growth, ( my interpretation though )that could shed some light on some stalled growth. The following study's demonstrate that obesity reduces estrogen receptor alpha ( ER-a, the boob growth receptor)........its kinda like the receptor disappears when being overweight, or/ the hormones aren't finding the cell receptor(s). In other words, reducing weight (bellies) initiates more ER-a receptor bioavailability.
ERα absence causes adipocyte hyperplasia and hypertrophy, insulin resistance, and glucose intolerance in both sexes.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11070086/
The full paper
http://m.pnas.org/content/97/23/12729.full
You're welcome Marcy
(07-09-2016, 03:25 PM)pom19 Wrote: Hi Lotus, does that mean fat people have less breast growth and smaller boobs? Thanks, POM
(08-09-2016, 08:35 PM)rachel-rache Wrote: Is HOPS (8-pin) here different than hops? Also, in Lotus's post of choosing one of each, how come there is no PM mentioned as one of the estrogens. Isn't it really strong? Thanks
(08-09-2016, 08:25 PM)Lotus Wrote:--------------------------------------------(07-09-2016, 03:25 PM)pom19 Wrote: Hi Lotus, does that mean fat people have less breast growth and smaller boobs? Thanks, POM
It appears that the reduction (or absence) of ERalpha causes adipocyte hyperplasia, hypertrophy, insulin resistance, and glucose intolerance in both sexes (as stated).
In other words, exercise improved the sensitivity of ER-a, and obesity keeps breast growth to a minimum (if any) other than adding fat with increased obesity.
I don't expect everyone to follow where I'm going with this new research for BN, but basically a short explanation is that I've found addtiional info that White Peony inhibits prostate cancer (which mostly is androgen driven) along with treating many other illnesses. Though one particular find is that WP gives support for treating diabetes, though I find it to be from β-cells (or generation of β-cells) which is newer science (or on the horizon) for the treatment of diabetes (via stem cell technology).
(more on that later).