[Lotus]

How important is coconut oil?

The unique composition of human breast milk fat includes the fatty acids, lauric acid and capric acid, which have potent antimicrobial properties. These fatty acids offer the nursing infant protection from viruses such as herpes and HIV, protozoa such as giardia lamblia, and bacteria such as chlamydia and heliocobater.

Any lauric acid and capric acid in the diet becomes part of the adipose stores.

So taking along with a prolactin inducing herb such as Alfalfa/Fenugreek, coconut when taken internally will increase lauric acid reserves which then become apart of the fat tissues in the breasts which enlarges them... so adding coconut oil would be helpful, no telling by how much though

The Fatty Acid Composition of Coconut Oil
http://www.livestrong.com/article/363811...conut-oil/

[elainecd]

What about beer?

[Lotus]

I love beer. in fact a brew-miester would be a perfect fit for NBE lol.

[pom19]

I'm sure most BN members already know about how a diet will help or sink a NBE program (and there's a ton of NBE diet plans out there on the WWW).

I think it's gotta be a combination of few them that's entirely possible to grow breasts even in the absence of supplements. And it will be somewhere between the Paleo & Mediterranean diet plans with a few other twists lol.

I'll post some of the basics, it would interesting to find some BN members who'd be interested as diet (food plan) partners (buddies lol).

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GREAT IDEA LOTUS. pom

[twinklepose]

PS What dose would I be best taking with this WP?

http://www.baldwins.co.uk/baldwins-paeon...l-tincture

Bottle states 1:3 25% and take 15-20 drops three times a day.

[Lotus]

PS What dose would I be best taking with this WP?

http://www.baldwins.co.uk/baldwins-paeon...l-tincture

Bottle states 1:3 25% and take 15-20 drops three times a day.

Have you purchased this product?, there's no product info which is concerning. 2-3 x daily is usually effective, although the product quality (or lack of) can greatly effect its potency.

[twinklepose]

PS What dose would I be best taking with this WP?

http://www.baldwins.co.uk/baldwins-paeon...l-tincture

Bottle states 1:3 25% and take 15-20 drops three times a day.

Have you purchased this product?, there's no product info which is concerning. 2-3 x daily is usually effective, although the product quality (or lack of) can greatly effect its potency.

Yes, arrived today. Nothing on the bottle either.

Had a reply to my email about the reishi, too: 250mg in a 325mg capsule. Still waiting for that to be delivered.

Thanks for all your help, Lotus. x

[The First Aria]

The white peony root xtract I purchased from Iowa Select Herbs says "40-60 drops (1tsp) 2-3 x per day. I do not remember for sure what the xtract ratio is, I think it's 1:1 tho not sure.

[Outsider]

The white peony root xtract I purchased from Iowa Select Herbs says "40-60 drops (1tsp) 2-3 x per day. I do not remember for sure what the xtract ratio is, I think it's 1:1 tho not sure.

On amazon the product description says "Our extracts have a herb strength of 1 to 1 and a 25% alcohol content."

[Lotus]

Holy sh**, I was totally wrong, well before you bust a gut in euphoria lol I'll explain.

DHT might have a roll in an estrogenic action, don't get me wrong it's still a bad mother.....only don't get all fluffy yet.

It's a bit of a stretch but we still need to disclose the link:

Recent data have shown that DHT may be converted into 5α-androstane- 3β-17β-diol (3β-diol) in a virtually irreversible reaction. Once considered inactive, 3β-diol is present in high concentrations in the male and indeed has biological activity. However, 3β-diol does not bind to the androgen receptor (AR), but rather to ERα and ERβ, with higher affinity for ERβ. Based upon these findings, we hypothesized that the modulation of AQP9 by DHT could be indirectly mediated by 3β-diol.

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1615873/


Effects of 3-beta-diol, an androgen metabolite with intrinsic estrogen-like effects,

Abstract

Background: Fluid homeostasis is critical for normal function of the male reproductive tract and aquaporins (AQP) play an important role in maintenance of this water and ion balance. Several AQPs have been identified in the male, but their regulation is not fully comprehended. Hormonal regulation of AQPs appears to be dependent on the steroid in the reproductive tract region. AQP9 displays unique hormonal regulation in the efferent ductules and epididymis, as it is regulated by both estrogen and dihydrotestosterone (DHT) in the efferent ductules, but only by DHT in the initial segment epididymis. Recent data have shown that a metabolite of DHT, 5-alpha- androstane-3-beta-17-beta-diol (3-beta-diol), once considered inactive, is also present in high concentrations in the male and indeed has biological activity. 3-beta-diol does not bind to the androgen receptor, but rather to estrogen receptors ER-alpha and ER-beta, with higher affinity for ER-beta. The existence of this estrogenic DHT metabolite has raised the possibility that estradiol may not be the only estrogen to play a major role in the male reproductive system. Considering that both ER-alpha and ER-beta are highly expressed in efferent ductules, we hypothesized that the DHT regulation of AQP9 could be due to the 3-beta-diol metabolite.

Methods: To test this hypothesis, adult male rats were submitted to surgical castration followed by estradiol, DHT or 3-beta-diol replacement. Changes in AQP9 expression in the efferent ductules were investigated by using immunohistochemistry and Western blotting assay.

Results: Data show that, after castration, AQP9 expression was significantly reduced in the efferent ductules. 3- beta-diol injections restored AQP9 expression, similar to DHT and estradiol. The results were confirmed by Western blotting assay.

Conclusion: This is the first evidence that 3-beta-diol has biological activity in the male reproductive tract and that this androgen metabolite has estrogen-like activity in the efferent ductules, whose major function is the reabsorption of luminal fluids.





a) It has been shown that 3β-diol may have hormonal activity, not acting through the AR, but rather as a ligand for both ERα and ERβ.

b) 3β-diol has higher affinity for ERβ [31], which is abun- dant in the efferent ductule epithelium [40].

c) In human testis, the 3β-diol concentration is higher than DHT and estradiol [44,45]. It is reasonable to postu- late that high concentrations of this metabolite may enter the lumen of efferent ductules.

d) The existence of this estrogenic DHT metabolite has raised the possibility that estradiol may not be the major estrogen in males [29]. For instance, in the prostate there is a growing body of evidence that 3β-diol, acting through ERβ, may regulate important physiological events [26,28,32,46].

Also noteworthy is the fact that 3β-diol stimulates ERβ induced transcriptional activity equal to the cognate lig- and estradiol, and the transcriptional selectivity of 3β-diol for ERβ is much greater than its binding selectivity [30,46]

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Here's the link-see if you can pick it up-