[Lotus]

It's time that I updated the program:

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Current
♦ PM-extract High 120:1 potency 4 drops sublingual, (1 drop is 40 mg) Pueraria Mirifica-The most potent phytoestrogen, targets E receptors, minor anti-androgen (daidzien)
♦ BO-250 mg 4-ea. daily------------(pro-aromatase, 5-AR inhibiting, estrogenic) paused
♦ FG -900 mg total am-pm Fenugreek-Prolactin stimulate, increases production of estrogen, phytoestrogen, adaptogen
♦ Hops-310 mg 3x-daily-----------------(activates alpha estrogen receptors, influences prolactin, and increases other estrogenic responses, also interacts with the progesterone receptors)
♦ B 6 - 100 mg daily
♦ Multi Amino-acid 500 mg 2-3x daily-----------(Growth Hormone)
♦ Multivitamin 1x daily
♦ Reishi Mushroom 600 mg 3x daily--------------(5-alpha reductase) Red Reishi-Significantly reduces levels of 5-alpha reductase (DHT)
♦ Licorice Root 450 mg 1x daily----(pro-aromatase, activates alpha, beta estrogen receptors, blocks 5-ar)
♦ Stinging Nettle Root 500 mg 1 tabs. daily----petitioner(increases estrogen and testosterone) Binds to SHBG
♦ PABA 500 mg 2x-----(Decreases breakdown of estrogen in your body so you have more free estrogen)


Added
Dandelion root - (Good for detoxing the liver, and upregulates estrogen receptors so your body uses the estrogen you are putting in.)
Dandelion Root-
Caps 60 515 mg Caps 1x daily to start!

Triple Leaf Tea White Peony Tea- (Estrogenic, blocks 5ar and pro-aromatase)
4 bags daily -(on order)

Progesterone Cream Balances out estrogen, strong 5 alpha reductase (converts T to DHT), adds to breast growth (ducts and elongation)
Cream 4 oz Cream- 1/4 teaspoon 4 x weekly



This is truly amazing!

http://www.breastnexus.com/attachment.php?aid=5495

I try to go by this time frame when taking the supplements, i.e.- when T is high, I will modulate http://www.breastnexus.com/attachment.php?aid=5395
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Massage
1) While in a seated position, arms rested at your side and hands on your thighs.
2) Now raise your arms (elbows) as high as you can while keeping your hands on your thighs.
3) Then slowly squeeze your arms back down to your sides while adding pressure.(As if you had a ball under your arms and your simulating squeezing that ball as hard as you can on the way back down)
4) Do 3 sets of 10 ea. (or more if you can)
(Use a ball if it works better)

Isometric chest exercise

http://youtube.com/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DgeOC7hCs930&v=geOC7hCs930

Another massage
Also been working this Breast massage/exercise:
♦ With your hand grab your breast from your side, pull it towards the center of your chest, now hold and flex for 2-3 seconds or longer if you can, repeat up to 10 times!
♦ Try it with your palms pushing your breasts towards the center, as if your trying to touch your nipples together, now interlock your fingers together, using your hands squeeze like a cupping motion, also flex your pec's (tighten) at the same or alternate hand/pecs....up to 10 times.



www.breastnexus.com/attachment.php?aid=5772

Also looking to add Valerian Root, it's also a moderate inhibitor CYP3A4 enzyme, being one that causes at least a 2-fold increase in the plasma AUC values, or 50-80% decrease in clearance.

[Lotus]

It's time that I updated the program:

*************
Current
♦ PM-extract High 120:1 potency 4 drops sublingual, (1 drop is 40 mg) Pueraria Mirifica-The most potent phytoestrogen, targets E receptors, minor anti-androgen (daidzien)
♦ BO-250 mg 4-ea. daily------------(pro-aromatase, 5-AR inhibiting, estrogenic) paused
♦ FG -900 mg total am-pm Fenugreek-Prolactin stimulate, increases production of estrogen, phytoestrogen, adaptogen
♦ Hops-310 mg 3x-daily-----------------(activates alpha estrogen receptors, influences prolactin, and increases other estrogenic responses, also interacts with the progesterone receptors)
♦ B 6 - 100 mg daily
♦ Multi Amino-acid 500 mg 2-3x daily-----------(Growth Hormone)
♦ Multivitamin 1x daily
♦ Reishi Mushroom 600 mg 3x daily--------------(5-alpha reductase) Red Reishi-Significantly reduces levels of 5-alpha reductase (DHT)
♦ Licorice Root 450 mg 1x daily----(pro-aromatase, activates alpha, beta estrogen receptors, blocks 5-ar)
♦ Stinging Nettle Root 500 mg 1 tabs. daily----petitioner(increases estrogen and testosterone) Binds to SHBG
♦ PABA 500 mg 2x-----(Decreases breakdown of estrogen in your body so you have more free estrogen)


Added
Dandelion root - (Good for detoxing the liver, and upregulates estrogen receptors so your body uses the estrogen you are putting in.)
Dandelion Root-
Caps 60 515 mg Caps 1x daily to start!

Triple Leaf Tea White Peony Tea- (Estrogenic, blocks 5ar and pro-aromatase)
4 bags daily -(on order)

Progesterone Cream Balances out estrogen, strong 5 alpha reductase (converts T to DHT), adds to breast growth (ducts and elongation)
Cream 4 oz Cream- 1/4 teaspoon 4 x weekly



This is truly amazing!

http://www.breastnexus.com/attachment.php?aid=5495

I try to go by this time frame when taking the supplements, i.e.- when T is high, I will modulate http://www.breastnexus.com/attachment.php?aid=5395
**************************************



Massage
1) While in a seated position, arms rested at your side and hands on your thighs.
2) Now raise your arms (elbows) as high as you can while keeping your hands on your thighs.
3) Then slowly squeeze your arms back down to your sides while adding pressure.(As if you had a ball under your arms and your simulating squeezing that ball as hard as you can on the way back down)
4) Do 3 sets of 10 ea. (or more if you can)
(Use a ball if it works better)

Isometric chest exercise

http://youtube.com/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DgeOC7hCs930&v=geOC7hCs930

Another massage
Also been working this Breast massage/exercise:
♦ With your hand grab your breast from your side, pull it towards the center of your chest, now hold and flex for 2-3 seconds or longer if you can, repeat up to 10 times!
♦ Try it with your palms pushing your breasts towards the center, as if your trying to touch your nipples together, now interlock your fingers together, using your hands squeeze like a cupping motion, also flex your pec's (tighten) at the same or alternate hand/pecs....up to 10 times.



www.breastnexus.com/attachment.php?aid=5772

Also looking to add Valerian Root, it's also a moderate inhibitor CYP3A4 enzyme, being one that causes at least a 2-fold increase in the plasma AUC values, or 50-80% decrease in clearance.

This should be in any program-Oats-Phytoestrogen, decreases SHBG, source of zinc, iron, vitamins B6, vitamin E and amino acids.

[NaughtyLeah]

Hi ~Lotus~
How are you doing?
I wanted to thank you for posting the breast (pec) exercises!
As with most exercises, after only a few reps, you can feel it!
Of course, after only a time or two, its too early to tell if there will be results...but as the old saying goes; No pain, no gain...
Take care and have a great one.
Leah

[myboobs]

I will give it a try and if i end up looking sour face u r in it for it

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Well it's a big continent, I find somewhere to hide!


Seriously,

The whole learning curve on this can be wasteful, even with the trusty grapefruit juice seems iffy. Before you know it the bottle is 3/4's gone after 2 weeks, and that's 8 drops per day (the recommend amount) which I don't get. So at $25.00 w/delivery now your looking at a supply of 2 bottles to last the month.

Sublingual is the way to go, then you guarantee the bottle should last for the month, (that's assuming the 3-4 drops).

If anyone has a better delivery, I'm all ears!

[/quote]
Lotus did ya get ainterol xtreme20 ?

[/quote]

Tried it under tounge . 4 squirts . Not too pleasant but not as horrible as I had expected

[Lotus]

Hi ~Lotus~
How are you doing?
I wanted to thank you for posting the breast (pec) exercises!
As with most exercises, after only a few reps, you can feel it!
Of course, after only a time or two, its too early to tell if there will be results...but as the old saying goes; No pain, no gain...
Take care and have a great one.
Leah

Hi Leah,

Doing ok, thanks for asking.
No problem, I wish I started the pec exercises when I started NBE, I think there so important in ones program.
Yes exactly, and everything to gain.

Thanks!

[Lotus]

I will give it a try and if i end up looking sour face u r in it for it

Well it's a big continent, I find somewhere to hide!


Seriously,

The whole learning curve on this can be wasteful, even with the trusty grapefruit juice seems iffy. Before you know it the bottle is 3/4's gone after 2 weeks, and that's 8 drops per day (the recommend amount) which I don't get. So at $25.00 w/delivery now your looking at a supply of 2 bottles to last the month.

Sublingual is the way to go, then you guarantee the bottle should last for the month, (that's assuming the 3-4 drops).

If anyone has a better delivery, I'm all ears!

[/quote]
Lotus did ya get ainterol xtreme20 ?

[/quote]

Tried it under tounge . 4 squirts . Not too pleasant but not as horrible as I had expected
[/quote]

Ok, did you feel any difference?

[myboobs]

I will give it a try and if i end up looking sour face u r in it for it

Well it's a big continent, I find somewhere to hide!


Seriously,

The whole learning curve on this can be wasteful, even with the trusty grapefruit juice seems iffy. Before you know it the bottle is 3/4's gone after 2 weeks, and that's 8 drops per day (the recommend amount) which I don't get. So at $25.00 w/delivery now your looking at a supply of 2 bottles to last the month.

Sublingual is the way to go, then you guarantee the bottle should last for the month, (that's assuming the 3-4 drops).

If anyone has a better delivery, I'm all ears!

Lotus did ya get ainterol xtreme20 ?

[/quote]

Tried it under tounge . 4 squirts . Not too pleasant but not as horrible as I had expected
[/quote]

Ok, did you feel any difference?


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Last night was first , but didn't feel any diffrent than or today morning !!

[spanky]

Actually I spray it on back of tounge and swallow it than wash it down with my tincture mixture

If you want the biggest bang, go for under the tongue, just a drop or two at first. Try it 2-3x daily until you can manage the taste and then increase the amount as you can tolerate.

Sublingual
Certain drugs are best given beneath the tongue or retained in the cheek pouch and are absorbed from these regions into the local circulation. These vascular areas are ideal for lipid-soluble drugs that would be metabolized in the gut or liver, since the blood vessels in the mouth bypass the liver (do not undergo first pass liver metabolism), and drain directly into the systemic circulation. This route is usually reserved for nitrates and certain hormones.


Only let it absorb for a few minutes, and then wash it down.

Would it be better to take all of the extracts this way, such as white peony root? How can you tell if something is lipid-soluble?

[Lotus]

Actually I spray it on back of tounge and swallow it than wash it down with my tincture mixture

If you want the biggest bang, go for under the tongue, just a drop or two at first. Try it 2-3x daily until you can manage the taste and then increase the amount as you can tolerate.

Sublingual
Certain drugs are best given beneath the tongue or retained in the cheek pouch and are absorbed from these regions into the local circulation. These vascular areas are ideal for lipid-soluble drugs that would be metabolized in the gut or liver, since the blood vessels in the mouth bypass the liver (do not undergo first pass liver metabolism), and drain directly into the systemic circulation. This route is usually reserved for nitrates and certain hormones.


Only let it absorb for a few minutes, and then wash it down.

Would it be better to take all of the extracts this way, such as white peony root? How can you tell if something is lipid-soluble?

Hi spanky,

I would think so, opinions will vary based upon preference imo. I was never into taking anything sublingually. Give me a shot or a pill, lol. But after months or even years perhaps of the most common route (orally) which now has led me to believe its worth experimenting. What's your opinion?


LIPID SOLUBILITY -the ability to dissolve through the lipid (fat) portion of a membrane; steroids and other lipid-based molecules, for example, pass through membranes easily and are said to be "highly lipid soluble"

DIFFUSION -movement of solute particles from an area of high concentration to an area of low solute concentration; solutes are said to diffuse "down their concentration gradient

SUBLINGUAL -certain drugs are best given beneath the tongue or retained in the cheek pouch and are absorbed from these regions into the local circulation. These vascular areas are ideal for lipid-soluble drugs that would be metabolized in the gut or liver, since the blood vessels in the mouth bypass the liver (do not undergo first pass liver metabolism), and drain directly into the systemic circulation. This route is usually reserved for nitrates and certain hormones.

ORALLY -by far the most common route. The passage of drug from the gut into the blood is influenced by biologic and physicochemical factors and by the dosage form. For most drugs, two- to five-fold differences in the rate or extent of gastrointestinal absorption can occur, depending on the dosage form. These two characteristics, rate and completeness of absorption, comprise bioavailability. Generally, the bioavailability of oral drugs follows the order: solution > suspension > capsule > tablet > coated tablet.

TOPICALLY -a topical medication is a medication that is applied to body surfaces such as the skin or mucous membranes to treat ailments via a large range of classes including but not limited to creams, foams, gels, lotions and ointments.

[spanky]

Actually I spray it on back of tounge and swallow it than wash it down with my tincture mixture

If you want the biggest bang, go for under the tongue, just a drop or two at first. Try it 2-3x daily until you can manage the taste and then increase the amount as you can tolerate.

Sublingual
Certain drugs are best given beneath the tongue or retained in the cheek pouch and are absorbed from these regions into the local circulation. These vascular areas are ideal for lipid-soluble drugs that would be metabolized in the gut or liver, since the blood vessels in the mouth bypass the liver (do not undergo first pass liver metabolism), and drain directly into the systemic circulation. This route is usually reserved for nitrates and certain hormones.


Only let it absorb for a few minutes, and then wash it down.

Would it be better to take all of the extracts this way, such as white peony root? How can you tell if something is lipid-soluble?

Hi spanky,

I would think so, opinions will vary based upon preference imo. I was never into taking anything sublingually. Give me a shot or a pill, lol. But after months or even years perhaps of the most common route (orally) which now has led me to believe its worth experimenting. What's your opinion?


LIPID SOLUBILITY -the ability to dissolve through the lipid (fat) portion of a membrane; steroids and other lipid-based molecules, for example, pass through membranes easily and are said to be "highly lipid soluble"

DIFFUSION -movement of solute particles from an area of high concentration to an area of low solute concentration; solutes are said to diffuse "down their concentration gradient

SUBLINGUAL -certain drugs are best given beneath the tongue or retained in the cheek pouch and are absorbed from these regions into the local circulation. These vascular areas are ideal for lipid-soluble drugs that would be metabolized in the gut or liver, since the blood vessels in the mouth bypass the liver (do not undergo first pass liver metabolism), and drain directly into the systemic circulation. This route is usually reserved for nitrates and certain hormones.

ORALLY -by far the most common route. The passage of drug from the gut into the blood is influenced by biologic and physicochemical factors and by the dosage form. For most drugs, two- to five-fold differences in the rate or extent of gastrointestinal absorption can occur, depending on the dosage form. These two characteristics, rate and completeness of absorption, comprise bioavailability. Generally, the bioavailability of oral drugs follows the order: solution > suspension > capsule > tablet > coated tablet.

TOPICALLY -a topical medication is a medication that is applied to body surfaces such as the skin or mucous membranes to treat ailments via a large range of classes including but not limited to creams, foams, gels, lotions and ointments.

Thanks for the detailed reply. When I purchase some extract, I will try it sublingually. If I had not already overstocked with PM powder, I would try the extract of that as well.