I use pueriaria.co.uk PM is cheap, natureday is not, so I went for PM and it works, so why pay more? I am now approaching the upper end of a B cup, my legs have become very fem, My body fat has moved down, to a fem distribution, I have lost muscle mass and become much weaker I have lost all libido, I have lost all feelings of maleness, being much calmer, less aggresive/abraisive and more sympatico. My ability to park a car has plummeted! If you want to femanise PM will do it for you.