[flamesabers]

Hello everyone,

The inspiration of this thread came from posters on the "safe space" thread. 

(Disclaimer: English is my first and only language).

I never had my chromosomes tested. I presume they're XY, based on my HRT regime and no doctor has ever suggested to me that I might have anything different. 

For clarification, I joined this forum about 9ish years prior to my "official" transition on HRT in 2021. Back in 2012, I didn't have any disagreement about joining a BN subforum intended for "genetic males." I just wanted to grow breasts and learn from people who had similar genetics/biology/hormones as mine. I was well aware that participating in the genetic female side of the forum didn't make sense, as I had a testosterone dominance and low estrogen levels to change if I wanted to grow feminine breasts. Loading up on PM made sense for my NBE regime to be successful. But for a genetic female? I don't know what kind of PM level would be best appropriate for her, other then perhaps the recommended bottle dosage for 500-1,000mg a day (for Ainterol's brand anyway). I knew I could never do that kind of self-experimentation for a genetic female considering my current hormone system. 

Even though I was aware of my possible trans indicators, I was still presenting/living as a male in real life 100% of the time. NBE was a secret I didn't even tell my doctors about. I don't recall exactly when, but I remember posting as a "male staying male" in the relevant sub-forum as I had no plans of transitioning. The obvious pronouns for me to go by was he/him (at least in real life anyway). (They/them never resonated for me, as I don't consider myself non-binary). 

Early-to-mid 2021 happened and then I made the decision to transition. I started my HRT with Planned Parenthood. I remember on their intake form they inquired on what pronouns I go by. I put something to the effect of "doesn't matter." In my mind at the time, this was only a single step towards transitioning. Even though I had 9 years of breast growth from PM, I was still living/presenting as male in real life. Changing my pronouns to she/her didn't feel right at the time.

With all of that said, now nearly 5 years into my transition, I'm still well-aware of my biology, (likely) genetics, and what my hormone levels would probably be if I wasn't on exogenous hormones (HRT). When I come out to others as trans, I believe that automatically "covers the bases" of me disclosing I'm a genetic male. However, with the amount of time I've been on HRT, and long since legally transitioned, I'm living as a woman 100% of the time. I no longer have to pretend to be a guy anymore. Outside of the doctor's office, and sexual/romantic partners, being a gentic male has become less and less relevant for me in real life.

TLDR: I'm not bothered by the title of this forum (breast growth for genetic males), nor do I feel it needs to be changed. At most maybe there could be another subforum for intersex individuals under the transgender section? Do I want to be referred to as a genetic male? I don't feel that particular label is as accurate as being a trans woman.

As for my biology and hormones, it's no secret that I'm on MtF HRT. The M part (or starting point) stands for male. But again, I think the label trans woman is much more fitting for me then male.

[Shirazmn]

Thank you @flamesabers for starting this thread.

Before I talk about myself, I want to explain where I get my terminology from. I have done scientific studies for most of my life and I appreciate the clarity of scientific nomeclature, therefore I tend to use terms that are based in science and that have a meaning not defined by me or by a political current but by scientists. 
I know that a lot of people are very sensitive about the distinction between sex and gender, and I want to be very clear that I use these terms as they are used in biology, similarly to genotype and phenotype, and with no intention to insult anyone. You can find some information here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex%E2%80%93gender_distinction and, most importantly, in the sources at the bottom of the Wikipedia page.

Also, English is NOT my first language (I am Italian) and I live in the UK, so I apologise in advance for my grammar, for the potential lack of clarity, and for my spelling of the word "apologise".

I am a genetic male and I was Assigned Male at Birth (AMAB). I am cisgender, which means that I do not feel like I should be female and I do not intend to transition to being a woman in society. 
Just for clarity, I adopt the definition of "genetic male" as being born with XY chromosomes which came with a set of male genitalia producing fertile gametes, testosterone production etc... 
I mentioned "cisgender" which is made of "cis" (from the Latin: "on the same side of") and gender, which is defined of how a person acts in society to be commonly placed into the category of "man" or "woman". Cisgender, in my case, means that I am a male and that I want society to see me as a man in accordance with my genetics and genitals.

I have embarked many years ago (10, I think) in NBE because I want to grow breasts. I have always been curious about physical feelings, which led me to crossdressing to experience feeling connected with women's clothes (which I personally prefer to men's), which in turn led me to wonder what having breasts feels like. Therefore I am growing a pair. I do realise that many people would call this a fetish, and I do not intend to start defining what a fetish is, but to me it's just part of who I am, fetish or not.
As unusual as this may be according to society's standards, I still want to be seen as a man, regardless of which method I'll choose to grow breasts, which so far has involved herbs (mostly PM), DIY HRT (mostly Progynova) and mechanical stimulation (mostly Noogleberry and milk pumps). 


I originally joined BreastNexus (with an "s") as BreastNexum (with an "m") was its sub-forum. Since it has become its own site, I have always found that its subtitle "breast growth for genetic males" resonates with me and my needs. If anyone wants to share their experiences with me, be them male/female/men/women/cis/trans/intersex etc... I am always happy to listen and I hope that their experience in breast growth will be useful for myself and for others. Necessarily, I feel like my personal experience is more transferable to people born with the same genetic markup as me, XY, which is what I call "genetic males". I have absolute no prejudice against other males wanting to follow the same path I am walking, or against people of any sex, gender, or from any walk of life going in any other direction.

This is, perhaps, the most pedantic introduction of myself I have ever written, but I wanted to clarify the terminology that I use and why I use it.  

I hope that if in the future other members of the forum will interact with me, they'll take this post into consideration. I will never misgender anyone intentionally, and I expect people to not misgender me (for example by calling me transgender when I am not), but if things boil down to scientific tems I will use them appropriately. I do understand that in this forum it's easy to mix things up and I am willing to accept mistakes, as I hope others will, as long as they are part of a constructive conversation.

[Bromsnor]

Thank you @flamesabers for starting this thread.

Before I talk about myself, I want to explain where I get my terminology from. I have done scientific studies for most of my life and I appreciate the clarity of scientific nomeclature, therefore I tend to use terms that are based in science and that have a meaning not defined by me or by a political current but by scientists. 
I know that a lot of people are very sensitive about the distinction between sex and gender, and I want to be very clear that I use these terms as they are used in biology, similarly to genotype and phenotype, and with no intention to insult anyone. You can find some information here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex%E2%80%93gender_distinction and, most importantly, in the sources at the bottom of the Wikipedia page.

Also, English is NOT my first language (I am Italian) and I live in the UK, so I apologise in advance for my grammar, for the potential lack of clarity, and for my spelling of the word "apologise".

I am a genetic male and I was Assigned Male at Birth (AMAB). I am cisgender, which means that I do not feel like I should be female and I do not intend to transition to being a woman in society. 
Just for clarity, I adopt the definition of "genetic male" as being born with XY chromosomes which came with a set of male genitalia producing fertile gametes, testosterone production etc... 
I mentioned "cisgender" which is made of "cis" (from the Latin: "on the same side of") and gender, which is defined of how a person acts in society to be commonly placed into the category of "man" or "woman". Cisgender, in my case, means that I am a male and that I want society to see me as a man in accordance with my genetics and genitals.

I have embarked many years ago (10, I think) in NBE because I want to grow breasts. I have always been curious about physical feelings, which led me to crossdressing to experience feeling connected with women's clothes (which I personally prefer to men's), which in turn led me to wonder what having breasts feels like. Therefore I am growing a pair. I do realise that many people would call this a fetish, and I do not intend to start defining what a fetish is, but to me it's just part of who I am, fetish or not.
As unusual as this may be according to society's standards, I still want to be seen as a man, regardless of which method I'll choose to grow breasts, which so far has involved herbs (mostly PM), DIY HRT (mostly Progynova) and mechanical stimulation (mostly Noogleberry and milk pumps). 


I originally joined BreastNexus (with an "s") as BreastNexum (with an "m") was its sub-forum. Since it has become its own site, I have always found that its subtitle "breast growth for genetic males" resonates with me and my needs. If anyone wants to share their experiences with me, be them male/female/men/women/cis/trans/intersex etc... I am always happy to listen and I hope that their experience in breast growth will be useful for myself and for others. Necessarily, I feel like my personal experience is more transferable to people born with the same genetic markup as me, XY, which is what I call "genetic males". I have absolute no prejudice against other males wanting to follow the same path I am walking, or against people of any sex, gender, or from any walk of life going in any other direction.

This is, perhaps, the most pedantic introduction of myself I have ever written, but I wanted to clarify the terminology that I use and why I use it.  

I hope that if in the future other members of the forum will interact with me, they'll take this post into consideration. I will never misgender anyone intentionally, and I expect people to not misgender me (for example by calling me transgender when I am not), but if things boil down to scientific tems I will use them appropriately. I do understand that in this forum it's easy to mix things up and I am willing to accept mistakes, as I hope others will, as long as they are part of a constructive conversation.

I am not a scientist, but my mental make-up needs clarity, and so I am completely on board with your discourse. I hope my English is gramatically adequate enough, my language is Dutch (Nederlands)my whole life (81+ years). My reasons for breast growing are more or less the same as yours.

Greetings from the Low Lands.