(26-06-2013, 03:50 AM)ab101bab Wrote: read. instead of picking someone out of the crowd to pick on. there have been claims of dvt linked to use of pm. anyone with a brain knows that if u mess with your body and knock off its natural hormone balances your asking for trouble. enter at your own risk.
There've been claims that Martian's ate peoples grandmothers. Do you believe those ones too?
Okay... All joking aside, and in all seriousness... I speak only of verifiable REAL research. And ALL such research indicates PM to be only a positive thing - as long as it's not abused.
And even when abused, you DO know what a DVT is, right? It's a very specialized kind of blood clot. Well. Technically it's what happens when you get a specialized kind of blood clot... but anyways... It's VERY unlikely, given the way that PM is processed by the liver, that ANY amount of the substance can EVER cause an increased risk for blood clots. Ever. This is with actual proven verifiable research. No increased risk for blood clots == no increased risk for a DVT. It goes hand in hand.
Now, there are various things, directly and solely, linked to too high of estrogens in the body, that you CAN be at risk for if you abuse it. There's also the small little problem where it causes a HUGE insulin spike - without the sugar for that insulin to be taking out... The latter is easily corrected for simply by eating immediately upon taking a dose. Preferably something with a fair amount of sugars in it.
Too much estrogens? You can balance it either by reducing your doses or supplementing your progesterone, depending on your specific needs.
We didn't "pick" anyone out of "the crowd" to "pick on". We noticed some misinformation being handed out and sought to correct it. Would have done the same no matter who it was who posted the misinformation. Eventually. And if I had even more time available probably with research links. And if I hadn't, someone probably would have.
It's not about you. It's about the facts. I really honestly don't have the time in my day to go about choosing random people to pick on. In fact, at first I'd ignored the thread because I was like, oh come on, this one AGAIN?! But once the misinformation was there, I found myself having to correct it. Not to pick on you... But to keep facts straight. It's one thing to warn of REAL potential hazards, it's another to claim ones that aren't there. A correct answer to the question if you really wanted to warn them that PM isn't necessarily ALWAYS safe, would be to say, well, no... but... and then describe some of the real potential problems.
If I remember the original post in question correctly you'd indicated that RESEARCH claimed the links... Nope. Only random people on the internet who claimed to have a DVT and claimed it corresponded entirely and solely with their PM use. That's hardly research. They could even be lying. Maybe they really did have a DVT, and perhaps they were using PM at the time - what ELSE were they using? What medicines did their doctor have them on? Did their doctor know what they were doing? I'm sorry to say, in case you honestly believed doctors to be infallible, but... they can make mistakes.