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new user unsure - jmjones14 - 27-02-2015

Hello I just started my journey to a new me Smile
my measurements:
chest:36A
waist:30in
hips:40in
I am on: msm 1000mgx4 a day
clevagen 1000x2 a day
+working out x3 weekly

Can add anything else to what I am already doing?
Can I take to much of the herbs that you had mentioned in a prior post?

PLEASE HELP I FEEL KINDA LOST THERES SO MUCH INFO TO KNOW ABOUT. PLEASE AND THANK YOU Smile



RE: new user unsure - Lotus - 27-02-2015

(27-02-2015, 08:25 AM)jmjones14 Wrote:  Hello I just started my journey to a new me Smile
my measurements:
chest:36A
waist:30in
hips:40in
I am on: msm 1000mgx4 a day
clevagen 1000x2 a day
+working out x3 weekly

Can add anything else to what I am already doing?
Can I take to much of the herbs that you had mentioned in a prior post?

PLEASE HELP I FEEL KINDA LOST THERES SO MUCH INFO TO KNOW ABOUT. PLEASE AND THANK YOU Smile

Hi jmjones and welcome,

NBE foods, like the ones listed can be used anytime. The foods posted have whats called "5 alpha reductase inhibitor" activity, which is a fancy technical term for one of the bodies enzymes (one of many). This particular enzyme binds with testosterone to form a more powerful (actually, the strongest) androgen that prevents breast growth called DHT (dihydrotestosterone).

I've read the literature on clevagen, how long have you used the product?, what's puzzling is no specific amounts of phytoestrogens are listed (and those products can be found anywhere). The study listed a 56 day trail which 32 participated, but only 28 completed. Odd, bcp was included in the study, so, was ovalution not factored in the results?. Normally, phytoestrogens should be in the first half, and a progesterone source in the latter. (I'm not trying to bash the product, it just wouldn't be my first choice).

I would consider adding some healthy fats, nuts (walnuts), omega 3-6-9, coconut oil, massage, proper hydration. Depending on your age, you'd be surprised at how much you can change hormones by adding bcp and phytoestrogen, and it's not in the good way, just a word of caution.

Take a look at these threads,

NBE non-herbal systems
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=20386http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=22964
NBE supplements
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=21602
NBE terms/definitions
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=21603



RE: Anti-Androgens - jmjones14 - 28-02-2015

Thank you for answering that really means a lot to me. I will defenitly start those things you mentioned and I also started reading the information posted. will for sure keep updated.

THANK YOU AGAIN Big Grin


RE: Anti-Androgens - spanky - 28-02-2015

This link probably has been posted before, but is corroborative as to a number of the AAs discussed in this thread.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3693613/


RE: Anti-Androgens - spanky - 28-02-2015

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RE: Anti-Androgens - spanky - 28-02-2015

Just one more for now:

[Image: inhibit.jpg]


RE: Anti-Androgens - myboobs - 01-03-2015

(28-02-2015, 12:03 PM)spanky Wrote:  Just one more for now:

[Image: inhibit.jpg]

Holy mosy ! Sparky ! U a chemist ?


RE: Anti-Androgens - spanky - 01-03-2015

Not at all. I can follow basic chemistry. Back when Noah was scraping llama poop off his shoes, I thought I might major in chemistry in college. But before my junior year I finally committed to something else.


RE: Anti-Androgens - Lotus - 02-03-2015

(01-03-2015, 10:29 AM)spanky Wrote:  Not at all. I can follow basic chemistry. Back when Noah was scraping llama poop off his shoes, I thought I might major in chemistry in college. But before my junior year I finally committed to something else.

Chemistry isn't easy to follow, it puts me to sleep quite honestly. Rolleyes If there was a FF (fast forward) option to all this I'd go through mad triple AAA batteries lol. But, no such luck in science right?, the road to find answers has many detours along the way. When you do come accross some evidence???........well, there is some satisfaction if it benefits the desired goal. If you can interpret research one can offer some analysis, and for us non-geek types?, that's not easy. I certainly appreciate when someone takes the time to post something other than llama poop.

spanky, thanks for the post. Big Grin




RE: Anti-Androgens - The First Aria - 02-03-2015

poop is one thing... Just let them Spit on ya...... Worse than St. Bernard slobbers. LOL.... O.k, I will shut up... for a bit anyways.