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NBE and sex
February 17 2007 at 9:38 AM
Fennel Fairy (Login fennelfairy)
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How does NBE using herbs affect the ability to get and maintain an erection? And if phytoestrogens can cause some form of impotence - is there something that can be taken to prevent that apart from viagra and the likes? Just curious...
Also, I read in Dianas post somewhere that Fenugreek affected her libido. I am a little worried about that aspect since I take fenugreek too. I haven't noticed any decrease so far but I wouldn't like the idea of becoming uninterested in sex. Horrible thought!
Any opinions on this?
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tittyboy
(no login) the brain February 17 2007, 3:07 PM
The Brain is the biggest sex organ in your body. You would have to be taking a massive amount of estrogen to effect you "final output". Libido could be affected by many things. You may find you have control over your libido as opposed to having to "get off". If anything like that happened it would be slow and reversible. Keep a chart of how you are now. If there are any changes, back off, or try to increase you libido mentally. Again, if that doesn't work or performance falls of, stop what you are doing. If you still want boobs single out which Herb is causing the problem. Fenugreek has not prevented me from performing but I do feel in control of myself. I have other medical issues which I am sure you do not (damaged pituitary gland), so for me the herbs have not cuased any difference. All fall off of libido would probably mean a fall off of testosterone. You might want to try Pueraria mirifica as it site specific. I am still trying to find a link where it said it could cause "shrinkage" in some men but I have not been able to find that page and now think it probably is not true.
Anonymous
(Login fennelfairy)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: NBE and sex February 17 2007, 3:13 PM
I have decided not to take the pueraria mirifica pills because they might increase the risk for blood clots in my case since they contain such a high dose of active substance. I am already on the birth control pill so I feel that adding the PM capsules might be an overload of estrogen. I don't want to take a risk. I use the cream though.
If the single herbs will make me feel bad in any way, I will try others.
tittyboy
(no login) me too February 17 2007, 3:28 PM
If I try it it will be the cream, not pills. There is a company now selling the stuff 100% pure so you can make your own concoctions. It is straight from a supplier in Thailand.
twinklepose
(Login twinklepose)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: NBE and sex February 17 2007, 6:28 PM
I've looked at loads of PM sites and nowhere can I find where it says anything about shrinkage.
Beware though, some other sites do have warnings.
Transfemme (a BO product) has this on its site: 23. Can I still sire children? No, most users report their sperm count drops to levels at or near sterile after six months of use.
25. Will it shrink my testicles and my penis area? Eventually it could, we have not had any reports of his though.
26. Will it take away by erection, can I still get hard? Yes, you will still maintain erections until your testosterone is equal to that of a premenopausal woman. When you have very low testosterone erections will be less frequent and more difficult. Do not use this product for longer than six months at a time if you are concerned about your testosterone levels and have regular blood work done by a medical doctor.
And the Phoenix Project site has this: Will Evanesce affect my sexual functioning as a male?
Yes. Two of the ingrediants in the Evanesce formulation are powerful extracts of a berry which blocks production of testosterone.
This allows the other herbs to go to work quicker, but it will also reduce your ability to function as a male sexually.
Erection and orgasm will take longer to achieve, and this effect is cumulative; the longer you are on elevated estrogens from any source, herbal or drugs, the more difficult it will be to function as a male, sexually.
It is crucial for you to know that over a period of time on elevated estrogens from any source, herbal or drugs, there is a strong probability that you will become permanently sterile.
In other words, guys, be careful what you wish for. When I began on Natureday, I asked loads of questions to Amy before I started.
I've had no problems down there - but hardly any growth either after more than four months! Fortunately, they have a money-back guarantee.
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tittyboy
(no login) link February 17 2007, 7:31 PM
I feel so stupid for loosing that page but I must say I have found it no where else. On the other hand if Pueraria Mirifica is a strong source of Phyto-estrogen then it would fall into the category you speak of. I have some dysfunction but then again my lower spine ( and neck) was broken so the doctors tell me it is nerve damage. My parts work perfectly fine but if I move in the wrong direction, well, I have to start over again. In most cases I think once you stop taking the herbs things will return to normal. I have seen too many Tranny's out there with , well, let's just say they seem to work fine.
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Fennel Fairy
(no login) Re: NBE and sex February 17 2007, 7:49 PM
Let's face it, there are a lot of trannyporn out there. They seem to function very well. Quite impressive sizes too I might add.
Seriously, I think that any side effects like the ones mentioned would be temporary. The body would normalize it's hormone levels if one stopped using the product, wouldn't it?
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twinklepose
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: NBE and sex February 17 2007, 8:10 PM
Some of the FAQs say that the estrogen levels stay the same after stopping the product - or even increase!
Also, just because you can get an erection does not mean you won't be sterile - and I think a lot of trannies use viagra or similar to get hard.
It's such a shame that we chaps who want to stay functioning have to be so careful which products we choose. In most cases, I don't think the manufacturers know the effects on men because they have done no proper research.
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tittyboy
(no login) Uhh February 17 2007, 9:11 PM
If you are even thinking of having children I would not recommend doing any of this. It would be tragic to trade off the joy of children for something as flighty as what we are doing here. If you want potent Sperm then stay away from anything that effects your hormones unnaturally or naturally. The testosterone I am taking will have the effect of virtually eliminating my Sperm production as there is a trigger between the brain and your testicles and can get crossed when the wrong hormonal balances are reached. I would get checked out by an Endocrinologist and have a sample of my Sperm taken to make sure all is fine. If it is, then stop what you doing now go make a baby (if the time is right). It will be the HIGH point of you life, that is what children are, don't mess with it. I hope not to be preachy but you must research this stuff before you mess with it. A friend of min was drilling beryllium for a major corporation I worked for and became sterile from the dust that landed on his lap. He did this job for 2 weeks and became sterile. He was awarded 1.2 million dollars in compensation (1979 dollars). He still laments not having a child. If you don't watch out for you, no on else will.
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twinklepose
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: NBE and sex February 17 2007, 10:12 PM
You're right, TB. It has been something in the back of my mind but I'm 33 and I don't really want kids. That said, who knows if I'll still the same in five years' time?
I doubt I will, but I'd rather not become sterile just in case.
I've almost finished my Natureday course now so might as well finish it. Then I'm not sure what I'll do. Maybe PM, maybe the Flat to Fem program, maybe nothing!
Perhaps the right way to go would be to use external products - cream, serum and such. By using that straight on the girls themselves, I'd be keeping the hormones away from the boys. You're the scientist. Do you think that may be best?
Cheers,
Twink x
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tittyboy
(no login) yes February 18 2007, 12:36 AM
I think that PM on the breasts would be the safest result. I would not ingest anything. I didn't have my son till I was 42, my wife was 36, so things can happen later than you might expect. Don't give up on kids, you sound like the father that a child yet not born is waiting for and needs.
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twinklepose
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: NBE and sex February 18 2007, 12:55 AM
Cheers TB.
Can anyone recommend what the best brand of PM cream is?
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Anonymous
(no login) Re: NBE and sex February 18 2007, 8:42 AM
The Pueraria Mirifica cream from Pueraria UK is a good choice. I am using it right now.
Yes, be careful with the reproductional system, Twink. A lot of men decide to have children later in life, when they meet someone they want to spend the rest of their life with. I know several men in their 40:ies who have never wanted kids in the past, but do now.
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waxingmoon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: NBE and sex February 18 2007, 3:13 PM
Twinklepose,
I have heard several references as to using PM cream on the breasts, or other herbs on the breasts as a way to avoid negative side effects. Although you may cut down on the total amount of estrogen you absorb by using the skin instead of the stomach, your body still processes the estrogen the same way, no matter how it gets into your system.
Perhaps some of the estrogen will directly engage the estrogen receptors in the breast, but there will certainly be an overall rise in estrogen in your system. Since your concern is maintaining fertility, you may not be completely safe with the skin versus stomach route. Safer perhaps, but ultimately it is down to the total amount of estrogen in your system.
You guys have another way to ensure your future progeny. Sperm banking could be insurance for you in case your NBE endeavors or other mishaps in life target your "troops". Putting some of your 'potential offspring' into the deep freeze would take a load off your mind and allow you greater largess in you NBE choices.
Just a thought,
waxingmoon
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tityboy
(no login) I agree February 18 2007, 3:21 PM
I agree with Waxingmoon here, I think anything you use will enter your system and affect you. I will not be having anymore children. If you even think it is in the future, then really consider your present actions. Women are born with a certain amount of eggs. We guys make and deposit the stuff everyday (sometimes a couple of times a day). I personally would want sperm that represented where I was when I decided to have a child. Freezing sperm obviously works but why not go with a fresh batch that day. I still remember the exact moment when my wife and I decided "this is it". A nice memory for sure, it may be all we have to take with us, certainly all we will have when we are aged.
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twinklepose
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: NBE and sex February 18 2007, 3:49 PM
Thanks, guys and girls. OK, so now I'm in a real quandry. I don't want to become sterile but there's no way want to stop my NBE journey either - and I don't fancy the sperm bank option either.
I'd be too worried about my sample getting mixed up and me having a kid with some random woman! Besides, like TB says, I'd want to do it the natural way, sans turkey baster!
Does anyone know if there's any actual evidence of herbs making men sterile and/or impotent? I've never come across a case study.
Oh, what to do! What to do!
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tittyboy
(no login) time February 18 2007, 4:08 PM
You need to think about this longer. Not enough time has passed to make a decision of this magnitude. Really think it thru. Examine what has brought you here. The desire to feminize your breasts has implications involving that of taking on the persona or functionality of women. Having a child satisfies that urge in men as you can love completely in a way that only mothers and fathers know. You must do the research to come to the conclusion you need to come too. This forum should play a very small part of that. You need Data that you can discover on your own and face the reality of what you are risking. Now I got out on a limb. I think you are making a mistake in continuing. If the desire for children exists in your life they must come first, whether they are here yet or not. You would never tell a women who is on drugs to not worry about having a baby. Men must be just as responsible. Half of the information and genes for making that baby come from you, guard them as though your child was here now and someone was trying to attack him or her. In a sense you are attacking yourself, it is something we humans all do, me too, just be honest to yourself. I grew breasts as a side effect of a Brain(pituitary gland) injury. The drugs I am one are exacerbating the breast growth. I really did not have much choice. I figure why not make them look nice. I asked my wife. "Do we wish more children?". she said, "If we have another we should adopt because of our age". You are very young. Go hang around some friends with kids. They are a handful. One with disabilities is even a bigger handful. No child at all is a dead end. I do not mean to sound preachy or offend, it is not in my nature . You seem like such a sincere person that to offer a "politically correct" answer would be unworthy of me and insincere to you.
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twinklepose
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: NBE and sex February 18 2007, 5:14 PM
Thanks TB. I appreciate your reply.
To be honest, I have never felt the desire to have children of my own. I have friends with kids and I enjoy spending time with them. But it's nice to walk away from them at the end of the day and leave them with the nappies, the crying and such.
I'm 33 and I've always said I don't want children. It's a huge responsibility and I'm not sure if I could handle it. The only thing is if I change my mind in a few years' time - I doubt it very much but you never know.
I have been crossdressing since I was a child. Right now, I'm wearing knickers and a bra - although there's nothing there to fill it. I would dearly love to grow small breasts. Even an AA cup would be wonderful for me.
I wouldn't want anything larger, to be honest, because, although I'm in touch with my feminine side, I love my man said, too. I like my mates, my beer, my football (soccer to you!!!) I guess I want the best of both worlds. I want my cake and I wanna eat it!
If I were to go to the doc's now and he/she told me I was sterile, I would lose no sleep over it. But, like I say, would I regret it in the time to come? I doubt it very much - but you just never know! OK, I'm repeating myself now!
I am going to finish the Natureday - I only have a couple more weeks to go. And then I need to decide what to do next. I think I need to do a lot of thinking!
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tittyboy
(no login) OK February 18 2007, 7:29 PM
Well your most recent posts clarifies a lot of things so good luck to you. I am happy you, have/are, thinking it/thought it, out! I had a friend who cross dressed and I knew him for 15 years before I found out about it.
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Mr.J
(no login) Re:NBE and sex May 7 2009, 8:00 AM
I am glade I found this board this is my first time posting. although I would love to have my own feminine breasts I want to have children more. If there was a proven method with I very low risk level id go for it but now I may need to wait till latter in life after insure my posterity
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riven_one
(Login riven_one) Re: NBE and sex May 9 2009, 8:13 AM
I've been on BO for about 1.5 years now and I really haven't noticed an effect on libido. Now when I experimented with estrofem there was a definite decrease in both libido and what the "boys" put out. My experiments were short in nature (30 days or so both times). When I quit the estrofem everything went back to normal, but I suspect that if someone stayed on it long enough it would have a definite effect. So, if you are planning a family i'd say be very careful of what you are doing. I've already had my kids so what I do is of no consequence.
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Dee
(Login moonstruck61) Re: NBE and sex July 6 2009, 7:43 AM
I've been on prescription HRT for 2 years and did DIY PE's for 6months before that.
The stuff down there is all but dead.
Erections are possible with work. Orgasm is almost impossible but can happen.
The walnuts turned to grapes and now they are raisins. They have shrank to the size of small marbles and are bone dry. Nothing at all is in them anymore.
I have reverted to pre-puberty stage.
My estrogen levels are equal to those of any other normal, healthy woman.
I have no testosterone. It's down into the single digits.
Hormonally, I am now female.
I can have sex but I only have sex as a woman now, I have a boyfriend and I am his woman. In every way.
I can get off but it's extremely difficult.
Be careful with this stuff, you can easily go beyond the point of no return and lose your ability to function down there.
In my case, I am pleased with these results, they are the results I had hoped for.
But know what you are doing before you dive into it head first.
February 17 2007 at 9:38 AM
Fennel Fairy (Login fennelfairy)
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How does NBE using herbs affect the ability to get and maintain an erection? And if phytoestrogens can cause some form of impotence - is there something that can be taken to prevent that apart from viagra and the likes? Just curious...
Also, I read in Dianas post somewhere that Fenugreek affected her libido. I am a little worried about that aspect since I take fenugreek too. I haven't noticed any decrease so far but I wouldn't like the idea of becoming uninterested in sex. Horrible thought!
Any opinions on this?
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tittyboy
(no login) the brain February 17 2007, 3:07 PM
The Brain is the biggest sex organ in your body. You would have to be taking a massive amount of estrogen to effect you "final output". Libido could be affected by many things. You may find you have control over your libido as opposed to having to "get off". If anything like that happened it would be slow and reversible. Keep a chart of how you are now. If there are any changes, back off, or try to increase you libido mentally. Again, if that doesn't work or performance falls of, stop what you are doing. If you still want boobs single out which Herb is causing the problem. Fenugreek has not prevented me from performing but I do feel in control of myself. I have other medical issues which I am sure you do not (damaged pituitary gland), so for me the herbs have not cuased any difference. All fall off of libido would probably mean a fall off of testosterone. You might want to try Pueraria mirifica as it site specific. I am still trying to find a link where it said it could cause "shrinkage" in some men but I have not been able to find that page and now think it probably is not true.
Anonymous
(Login fennelfairy)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: NBE and sex February 17 2007, 3:13 PM
I have decided not to take the pueraria mirifica pills because they might increase the risk for blood clots in my case since they contain such a high dose of active substance. I am already on the birth control pill so I feel that adding the PM capsules might be an overload of estrogen. I don't want to take a risk. I use the cream though.
If the single herbs will make me feel bad in any way, I will try others.
tittyboy
(no login) me too February 17 2007, 3:28 PM
If I try it it will be the cream, not pills. There is a company now selling the stuff 100% pure so you can make your own concoctions. It is straight from a supplier in Thailand.
twinklepose
(Login twinklepose)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: NBE and sex February 17 2007, 6:28 PM
I've looked at loads of PM sites and nowhere can I find where it says anything about shrinkage.
Beware though, some other sites do have warnings.
Transfemme (a BO product) has this on its site: 23. Can I still sire children? No, most users report their sperm count drops to levels at or near sterile after six months of use.
25. Will it shrink my testicles and my penis area? Eventually it could, we have not had any reports of his though.
26. Will it take away by erection, can I still get hard? Yes, you will still maintain erections until your testosterone is equal to that of a premenopausal woman. When you have very low testosterone erections will be less frequent and more difficult. Do not use this product for longer than six months at a time if you are concerned about your testosterone levels and have regular blood work done by a medical doctor.
And the Phoenix Project site has this: Will Evanesce affect my sexual functioning as a male?
Yes. Two of the ingrediants in the Evanesce formulation are powerful extracts of a berry which blocks production of testosterone.
This allows the other herbs to go to work quicker, but it will also reduce your ability to function as a male sexually.
Erection and orgasm will take longer to achieve, and this effect is cumulative; the longer you are on elevated estrogens from any source, herbal or drugs, the more difficult it will be to function as a male, sexually.
It is crucial for you to know that over a period of time on elevated estrogens from any source, herbal or drugs, there is a strong probability that you will become permanently sterile.
In other words, guys, be careful what you wish for. When I began on Natureday, I asked loads of questions to Amy before I started.
I've had no problems down there - but hardly any growth either after more than four months! Fortunately, they have a money-back guarantee.
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tittyboy
(no login) link February 17 2007, 7:31 PM
I feel so stupid for loosing that page but I must say I have found it no where else. On the other hand if Pueraria Mirifica is a strong source of Phyto-estrogen then it would fall into the category you speak of. I have some dysfunction but then again my lower spine ( and neck) was broken so the doctors tell me it is nerve damage. My parts work perfectly fine but if I move in the wrong direction, well, I have to start over again. In most cases I think once you stop taking the herbs things will return to normal. I have seen too many Tranny's out there with , well, let's just say they seem to work fine.
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Fennel Fairy
(no login) Re: NBE and sex February 17 2007, 7:49 PM
Let's face it, there are a lot of trannyporn out there. They seem to function very well. Quite impressive sizes too I might add.
Seriously, I think that any side effects like the ones mentioned would be temporary. The body would normalize it's hormone levels if one stopped using the product, wouldn't it?
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twinklepose
(Login twinklepose)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: NBE and sex February 17 2007, 8:10 PM
Some of the FAQs say that the estrogen levels stay the same after stopping the product - or even increase!
Also, just because you can get an erection does not mean you won't be sterile - and I think a lot of trannies use viagra or similar to get hard.
It's such a shame that we chaps who want to stay functioning have to be so careful which products we choose. In most cases, I don't think the manufacturers know the effects on men because they have done no proper research.
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tittyboy
(no login) Uhh February 17 2007, 9:11 PM
If you are even thinking of having children I would not recommend doing any of this. It would be tragic to trade off the joy of children for something as flighty as what we are doing here. If you want potent Sperm then stay away from anything that effects your hormones unnaturally or naturally. The testosterone I am taking will have the effect of virtually eliminating my Sperm production as there is a trigger between the brain and your testicles and can get crossed when the wrong hormonal balances are reached. I would get checked out by an Endocrinologist and have a sample of my Sperm taken to make sure all is fine. If it is, then stop what you doing now go make a baby (if the time is right). It will be the HIGH point of you life, that is what children are, don't mess with it. I hope not to be preachy but you must research this stuff before you mess with it. A friend of min was drilling beryllium for a major corporation I worked for and became sterile from the dust that landed on his lap. He did this job for 2 weeks and became sterile. He was awarded 1.2 million dollars in compensation (1979 dollars). He still laments not having a child. If you don't watch out for you, no on else will.
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twinklepose
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: NBE and sex February 17 2007, 10:12 PM
You're right, TB. It has been something in the back of my mind but I'm 33 and I don't really want kids. That said, who knows if I'll still the same in five years' time?
I doubt I will, but I'd rather not become sterile just in case.
I've almost finished my Natureday course now so might as well finish it. Then I'm not sure what I'll do. Maybe PM, maybe the Flat to Fem program, maybe nothing!
Perhaps the right way to go would be to use external products - cream, serum and such. By using that straight on the girls themselves, I'd be keeping the hormones away from the boys. You're the scientist. Do you think that may be best?
Cheers,
Twink x
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tittyboy
(no login) yes February 18 2007, 12:36 AM
I think that PM on the breasts would be the safest result. I would not ingest anything. I didn't have my son till I was 42, my wife was 36, so things can happen later than you might expect. Don't give up on kids, you sound like the father that a child yet not born is waiting for and needs.
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twinklepose
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: NBE and sex February 18 2007, 12:55 AM
Cheers TB.
Can anyone recommend what the best brand of PM cream is?
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Anonymous
(no login) Re: NBE and sex February 18 2007, 8:42 AM
The Pueraria Mirifica cream from Pueraria UK is a good choice. I am using it right now.
Yes, be careful with the reproductional system, Twink. A lot of men decide to have children later in life, when they meet someone they want to spend the rest of their life with. I know several men in their 40:ies who have never wanted kids in the past, but do now.
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waxingmoon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: NBE and sex February 18 2007, 3:13 PM
Twinklepose,
I have heard several references as to using PM cream on the breasts, or other herbs on the breasts as a way to avoid negative side effects. Although you may cut down on the total amount of estrogen you absorb by using the skin instead of the stomach, your body still processes the estrogen the same way, no matter how it gets into your system.
Perhaps some of the estrogen will directly engage the estrogen receptors in the breast, but there will certainly be an overall rise in estrogen in your system. Since your concern is maintaining fertility, you may not be completely safe with the skin versus stomach route. Safer perhaps, but ultimately it is down to the total amount of estrogen in your system.
You guys have another way to ensure your future progeny. Sperm banking could be insurance for you in case your NBE endeavors or other mishaps in life target your "troops". Putting some of your 'potential offspring' into the deep freeze would take a load off your mind and allow you greater largess in you NBE choices.
Just a thought,
waxingmoon
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tityboy
(no login) I agree February 18 2007, 3:21 PM
I agree with Waxingmoon here, I think anything you use will enter your system and affect you. I will not be having anymore children. If you even think it is in the future, then really consider your present actions. Women are born with a certain amount of eggs. We guys make and deposit the stuff everyday (sometimes a couple of times a day). I personally would want sperm that represented where I was when I decided to have a child. Freezing sperm obviously works but why not go with a fresh batch that day. I still remember the exact moment when my wife and I decided "this is it". A nice memory for sure, it may be all we have to take with us, certainly all we will have when we are aged.
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twinklepose
(Login twinklepose)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: NBE and sex February 18 2007, 3:49 PM
Thanks, guys and girls. OK, so now I'm in a real quandry. I don't want to become sterile but there's no way want to stop my NBE journey either - and I don't fancy the sperm bank option either.
I'd be too worried about my sample getting mixed up and me having a kid with some random woman! Besides, like TB says, I'd want to do it the natural way, sans turkey baster!
Does anyone know if there's any actual evidence of herbs making men sterile and/or impotent? I've never come across a case study.
Oh, what to do! What to do!
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tittyboy
(no login) time February 18 2007, 4:08 PM
You need to think about this longer. Not enough time has passed to make a decision of this magnitude. Really think it thru. Examine what has brought you here. The desire to feminize your breasts has implications involving that of taking on the persona or functionality of women. Having a child satisfies that urge in men as you can love completely in a way that only mothers and fathers know. You must do the research to come to the conclusion you need to come too. This forum should play a very small part of that. You need Data that you can discover on your own and face the reality of what you are risking. Now I got out on a limb. I think you are making a mistake in continuing. If the desire for children exists in your life they must come first, whether they are here yet or not. You would never tell a women who is on drugs to not worry about having a baby. Men must be just as responsible. Half of the information and genes for making that baby come from you, guard them as though your child was here now and someone was trying to attack him or her. In a sense you are attacking yourself, it is something we humans all do, me too, just be honest to yourself. I grew breasts as a side effect of a Brain(pituitary gland) injury. The drugs I am one are exacerbating the breast growth. I really did not have much choice. I figure why not make them look nice. I asked my wife. "Do we wish more children?". she said, "If we have another we should adopt because of our age". You are very young. Go hang around some friends with kids. They are a handful. One with disabilities is even a bigger handful. No child at all is a dead end. I do not mean to sound preachy or offend, it is not in my nature . You seem like such a sincere person that to offer a "politically correct" answer would be unworthy of me and insincere to you.
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twinklepose
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: NBE and sex February 18 2007, 5:14 PM
Thanks TB. I appreciate your reply.
To be honest, I have never felt the desire to have children of my own. I have friends with kids and I enjoy spending time with them. But it's nice to walk away from them at the end of the day and leave them with the nappies, the crying and such.
I'm 33 and I've always said I don't want children. It's a huge responsibility and I'm not sure if I could handle it. The only thing is if I change my mind in a few years' time - I doubt it very much but you never know.
I have been crossdressing since I was a child. Right now, I'm wearing knickers and a bra - although there's nothing there to fill it. I would dearly love to grow small breasts. Even an AA cup would be wonderful for me.
I wouldn't want anything larger, to be honest, because, although I'm in touch with my feminine side, I love my man said, too. I like my mates, my beer, my football (soccer to you!!!) I guess I want the best of both worlds. I want my cake and I wanna eat it!
If I were to go to the doc's now and he/she told me I was sterile, I would lose no sleep over it. But, like I say, would I regret it in the time to come? I doubt it very much - but you just never know! OK, I'm repeating myself now!
I am going to finish the Natureday - I only have a couple more weeks to go. And then I need to decide what to do next. I think I need to do a lot of thinking!
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tittyboy
(no login) OK February 18 2007, 7:29 PM
Well your most recent posts clarifies a lot of things so good luck to you. I am happy you, have/are, thinking it/thought it, out! I had a friend who cross dressed and I knew him for 15 years before I found out about it.
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Mr.J
(no login) Re:NBE and sex May 7 2009, 8:00 AM
I am glade I found this board this is my first time posting. although I would love to have my own feminine breasts I want to have children more. If there was a proven method with I very low risk level id go for it but now I may need to wait till latter in life after insure my posterity
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riven_one
(Login riven_one) Re: NBE and sex May 9 2009, 8:13 AM
I've been on BO for about 1.5 years now and I really haven't noticed an effect on libido. Now when I experimented with estrofem there was a definite decrease in both libido and what the "boys" put out. My experiments were short in nature (30 days or so both times). When I quit the estrofem everything went back to normal, but I suspect that if someone stayed on it long enough it would have a definite effect. So, if you are planning a family i'd say be very careful of what you are doing. I've already had my kids so what I do is of no consequence.
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Dee
(Login moonstruck61) Re: NBE and sex July 6 2009, 7:43 AM
I've been on prescription HRT for 2 years and did DIY PE's for 6months before that.
The stuff down there is all but dead.
Erections are possible with work. Orgasm is almost impossible but can happen.
The walnuts turned to grapes and now they are raisins. They have shrank to the size of small marbles and are bone dry. Nothing at all is in them anymore.
I have reverted to pre-puberty stage.
My estrogen levels are equal to those of any other normal, healthy woman.
I have no testosterone. It's down into the single digits.
Hormonally, I am now female.
I can have sex but I only have sex as a woman now, I have a boyfriend and I am his woman. In every way.
I can get off but it's extremely difficult.
Be careful with this stuff, you can easily go beyond the point of no return and lose your ability to function down there.
In my case, I am pleased with these results, they are the results I had hoped for.
But know what you are doing before you dive into it head first.