Hi guys. I am new to MSM. I am 42. Married 15 years. 2 kids. I live life as a very masculine person. I hunt, ride motorcycles, fix cars. I have no desire to be a female. I do not cross dress. But years have porn addiction somehow led me to this website. The more I read the more curious I was to try it. So over the last 6 months I have done the merry go round. Starting and stopping. The fear of budding and having permanent breasts caused to quit several times. I know it is a terrible idea
Last month I was feeling kinky and wanted to push my limits one last time. One full bottle. At the 3 week mark I could feel gumball size lumps behind each nipple. All this week I have this pressure pushing from deep inside my breast pushing towards my nipples. The buds are spreading. It feels really intense.
I knew permanent breast growth was possible, but I said I would quit before I budded. I didn't take into account picking up where I left off other sessions.
My breasts are actually a great size. I almost appear to have muscles, but the breasts jiggle with every step. They bounce driving my truck hitting bumps
having really noticeable breasts or wearing a bra is not possible
Want can I expect now? Should I stay on PM until I finish budding. That scares me. Should I stop. I am really in the pink fog. It is addicting.. Up to 2750mg today.
Sorry for the long post. I thought some of you might understand my fears and fetishes. I read through other posts you have shared every day. Thank you
I have been following your other posts and responded to most, if not all of them.
It looks to me that you really want full breasts!
As I have said before, pushing breast size is addictive in a sense. I have rarely chatted with anyone who stopped before realizing that they had achieved all of their hereditary size possible.
You keep coming back and taking mega doses of PM, and that is going to cause large breasts along with other things. Those are the facts.
If this i really a decision issue for you, maybe therapy would help you to find the answer within yourself.
Joey
Joey, thank for following my posts and responding often. The forum is the only place I have to talk about this and sometimes I start posting too often.
You are correct, it is very addictive.
I have decided to try to stop. My goal was to finish this bottle and I did that. I will continue to update this thread and read yalls posts.
I am happy with the breast size I have now. I can't stop looking in the mirror and looking down watching them jiggle. They have a bit of a feminine look. They are really just what I said I wanted. And I can still go topless.
I feel like this round I have added some permanent growth, but I don't know. I am anxious to see what stays.
... or maybe you haven't taken it too far enough?
I've read a couple of your other posts, and I have to confirm what Guy said.
You know the potential risks involved with NBE, and PM in particular. You claim to not want breasts, but you keep restarting.. it's almost as if you WANT them, but you're ashamed of wanting then. So, instead, you keep coming; subconsciously hoping something happens that takes the choice away from you.
Reading all of your posts and seeing the changes happening to my body has me doing some soul searching. In the meantime, I think I need to stop until I figure things out.
Demon Etna, I would like to take a little time to respond as to why I think I desire to have breasts. I think you made some very valid points I haven't considered.
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I could use your expertise. I just started my break. Not sure what to expect
My questions are this
1. how much longer will I continue growing?
2. What happens to my buds?
3. The growth after quitting should be minimal and not much permanent?? 4. Am I going to forever have to worry breasts will grow more at some points? 5. Any idea how much permanent growth i have going on? I am assuming I have do have some actual breast
I finished this round of PM. I was taking between 1800-2700mg a day for maybe 20 days. Used 2 bottles of serum as well.
I am feeling things change. My aerorals are growing.. I have buds and some breast tissue i am sure. I am hoping stopping will keep my buds from getting any bigger. I am hoping no more breast tissue forms. I like my size. I would prefer to not get any bigger. |
I have to agree with the other postings, seems like you REALLY DO want breast, but you feel ashamed so can't make that final decision, probably best with some counselling to help you break the cycle you are in.
Good luck and hope things work out for you.
I'm going to try to answer your questions one at a time, and please understand that my answers are not those of a trained medical professional. They will be based on anecdotal evidence and observations from nearly a decade of other cases.
1) How much longer will I continue growing?
That is unknown. NBE is mostly guess work and conjecture. You might already have as much as you'll ever get, or you might get a pair of DDs that make us all jealous. It depends entirely on you. It depends on if you continue or quit. It depends on if you change your program. It depends on your baseline genetics. If depends on your age and health. There are so many variables at play that it would be inappropriate for me to give any definitive answer.
2) What happens to my buds?
Well, for better or worse, if they really are buds, rather than swollen or redistributed pockets of fat, they are buds. They could shrink over time, but they're pretty much a part of you now.
3) The growth after quitting should be minimal and not much permanent?
That's not really a question, but I have already answered that. Even if you quit today, what you have is pretty much permanent, assuming it really is budding. You might get a little bit more volume, but I wouldn't expect much.
4) Am I going to forever have to worry breasts will grow more at some point?
Only if you continue.
5) Any idea how much permanent growth I have going on?
Not a clue. Without more information, I could even begin to try.
As I said at the very beginning of this, I am not a trained medical or psychiatric professional. I would highly recommend you talk to one before making any long term changes. Figure out what you want. The hardest part of this journey is understanding yourself. If you aren't absolutely certain, stop now, turn the other way, and forget this group exists. I don't like being so blunt with a sister, but I have personal experience about the secondary consequences that come with NBE. Your entire life will change, not just your chest. People will look at you differently, whether they admit it or not.
What Etna has written makes sense.
Just one observation: breast tissue is permanent, fat isn't. Breasts are made of tissue and fat; you can imagine the tissue as a Christmas tree where blobs of fat are hanging from the branches. You can take the fat away but the branches will remain albeit visibly smaller.
If you are budding or you have budded, that's when actual breast tissue starts appearing. You will not get rid of it, but it will proceed and merge with the flesh on your chest and, at the beginning, will give almost no shape at all. You may end up with more sensitive nipples on a seemingly man's chest.
The catch in all of the above is that, if breast tissue actually grew, if you gain weight, if you eat estrogenic food, or with old age when Testosterone naturally lowers in a male body, your breasts may re-inflate as the fat will attach itself to the breast tissue. You will NOT grow a D cup overnight, and most probably you'll never pass the point of full chest wall feminization (they are unlikely to look like womanly boobs) but they may indeed come back at some point. Eating estrogenic food may also add to the breast tissue once you bud, but this process is so slow that can usually be ignored.
Consider Etna's disclaimer copied and pasted here. I am not a doctor and all I am writing is from anedoctal experience and years of reading this forum (and others). Knowing how we all tend to go back to PM, my money is on the fact that you will go back to growing breasts intentionally at some point in the future, even if just for short periods.
Hello friends. I thought long and hard about everyone's advice and opinions. I have been off PM for 21 days. After alot of soul searching I believe it is best for me to not take anymore PM. Thank you everyone for reading my posts and taking the time to respond.
In the 21 days of not taking PM my bust size has grown from 40" to 41 3/4. They still look very feminine and jiggle alot. They feel like breasts. My nipples look kind of recessed sometimes because breast push out around them.
How do I know what is fat and what is breast tissue? I could use a few pounds, but I am not too overweight. 6 feet tall. 181 pounds.
I am assuming I have some permanent bresst tissue?
I am very aware of them. I am wearing more tank tops under shirts to stop them from jiggling. They squeeze together at night when I lay on my side. When I bath they feel like a girls breast running my soapy hands over my chest. I feel like everyone is starring at my chest when my shirt is off.
Here is a link to my post on aienterol forum. It has pictures. I would appreciate your replies.
https://www.ainterolherbs.com/forums/Thr...-permanent