(31-01-2019, 04:47 PM)Nipply Russel Wrote: [ -> ]It just occurred to me that many of us here (men who grow breasts, yet remain male) could be considered "crossgender". Seems the most appropriate label under those circumstances.
If "cross" is used as in "crossdressers" which is a well established word for "who dresses in clothes for the OPPOSITE gender", then crossgender is wrong. Years ago I read of the term "tweeners" as in "in betweeners" between sexes (gender has nothing to do with the body of the individual). I think that "tweeners" is appropriate to describe those who are cisgender but still decide to change their bodies to look like the opposite sex. (Who, I insist, are cisgender transsexuals).
Here we go with label thing again.
Don't bother about labels, just be content with who you are.
(01-02-2019, 08:43 AM)Pansy-Mae Wrote: [ -> ]Here we go with label thing again.
Don't bother about labels, just be content with who you are.
How does that saying go? "Labels are for cans, not people."
The important thing is that people learn to respect other people regardless of labels. But labels are important indeed if you expect others to respect you for who/what you are.
If you were born a man and you go out in a dress then others will call you a man. But if you label yourself trans then they will call you with the appropriate nouns and pronouns.
Labels are also important to find likeminded people. For years I thought I was alone because I only knew the English word transvestite, which is a label not many men use. But when I finally learnt that I am a crossdresser then I found thousands more, some of which are now good friends.
Labels are important.
(02-02-2019, 03:20 PM)Shirazmn Wrote: [ -> ]The important thing is that people learn to respect other people regardless of labels. But labels are important indeed if you expect others to respect you for who/what you are.
If you were born a man and you go out in a dress then others will call you a man. But if you label yourself trans then they will call you with the appropriate nouns and pronouns.
Labels are also important to find likeminded people. For years I thought I was alone because I only knew the English word transvestite, which is a label not many men use. But when I finally learnt that I am a crossdresser then I found thousands more, some of which are now good friends.
Labels are important.
I agree. I have no interest in "labeling" others, but I think that putting a name to your feelings/condition/lifestyle can help you to understand what you are. Know that there's a name for it and that there are others like you is very comforting.
I am comfortable with transgender. That word, along with its definitions, seems to describe me, and what I am.
I know I am a crossdresser, because that is something I DO.
transgender definition:
/tranzˈdʒɛndə,transˈdʒɛndə/Submit
adjective
denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex.
"a transgender activist and author"
Thanks
Bev
(02-02-2019, 03:20 PM)Shirazmn Wrote: [ -> ]Labels are important.
To you, clearly, but not to me and I don't want, or need, to be labelled with somebody else's labels.
I am what I am
And what I am needs no excuses
I deal my own deck
Sometimes the aces, sometimes the deuces
There's one life, and there's no return and no deposit;
One life, so it's time to open up your closet
Life's not worth a damn
'Till you can say
"Hey world, I am what I am."
(07-02-2019, 07:26 AM)Pansy-Mae Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 03:20 PM)Shirazmn Wrote: [ -> ]Labels are important.
To you, clearly, but not to me and I don't want, or need, to be labelled with somebody else's labels.
I am what I am
And what I am needs no excuses
I deal my own deck
Sometimes the aces, sometimes the deuces
There's one life, and there's no return and no deposit;
One life, so it's time to open up your closet
Life's not worth a damn
'Till you can say
"Hey world, I am what I am."
Pansy - yep 100%
Although I’ll admit it has take me a while to feel comfortable With that
Turns out I am definitely transsexual, according to my doctor.
If one has the desire to change one's body physically to appear like the opposite sex, do HRT, has gender dysphoria, and considers transitioning through surgery (or have had surgical procedures to that end), then you are transsexual. I am all of the above.
If you dress up (cross-dress), and temporarily take up a pseudo female role, but go back to living as your assigned sex wrt appearance, dress etc, then you are transgendered.
In the context of the medical profession, there is thus a clear distinction between the two terms, which becomes important when evaluating and treating patients.
Speaking for myself, I have long moved up from being part-time transgendered to being transsexual. The further I go with my herbal HRT program the more my desire grows for full transitioning. I have, since childhood, disliked my genitals and have always dreamed about having a vagina, breasts, a bigger butt and curves, beautiful long hair and wearing makeup, wearing dresses (I have many) etc etc.
Just thought I'd give you this info as defined by a doctor.