I'm back to pester you veterans with another question about a PM product I found on Amazon.
5 oz (500 g) Pueraria Mirifica Powder
I guess my main question is: Why so much for so cheap? Is there something wrong with it I'm not seeing? This is FIVE AND A HALF 100ct BOTTLES worth of PM here, One bottle of Ainterol capsules is 90g and costs barely less than this bag of powder!
(06-01-2015, 09:31 PM)GamerGuy Wrote: [ -> ]I'm back to pester you veterans with another question about a PM product I found on Amazon.
5 oz (500 g) Pueraria Mirifica Powder
I guess my main question is: Why so much for so cheap? Is there something wrong with it I'm not seeing? This is FIVE AND A HALF 100ct BOTTLES worth of PM here, One bottle of Ainterol capsules is 90g and costs barely less than this bag of powder!
It's probably a lower quality PM extract. They don't provide any useful information either. The number one complaint seems to be that it tastes bad, and none of the reviews actually say anything about getting results.
Gamerguy,
As Outside has noted, it's possible this vendor is offering a lowball price for pm by selling an inferior quality of pm. If you're really interested, I suggest doing research on the price of pm from a variety of vendors and see which price (Ainterol or this vendor) represents a more accurate market cost. If this product has a lot of legitimate and positive reviews, I think it would be worth a try. However, it doesn't. Also, the name of the vendor is very generic which makes me suspicious as to how reputable the vendor is. As far as I can tell, this vendor doesn't have its own website, which is a bit odd I think.
Heck, it could just be talc powder. After all, this industry, for the most part, is very un regulated. I would be afraid to buy other than from better known companies
Alright, makes sense perfectly. ALTHOUGH I found another product, also 500g and it seems to come in the form of what looks like.... rocks?
Here's the stuff
Rocks? does this mean it's more pure? I wish I knew more about this stuff.
They didn't bother to put up any pictures of the actual product. That always makes me cautious about supplements on amazon.
Over the last 90 days it's seller had a feedback rating of 76%, which is actually not so good compared to most sellers on amazon.
One of the questions also says it's actually from china, so it could be anything. The 26-40 day shipping estimate seems to confirm that it's imported.
I'd be very cautious about buying that PM if you value your health.
Hey gamer, as noted by others, I would be very cautious in buying from unknown 3rd party vendors from Amazon, or any other place for that matter. You are ingesting stuff into your body, do you really want to jeopardize your health?
Searching the net you will find that the fluctuation of PM prices is within dollars, at best minimal pricing difference. As with any online purchases, research the vendor, see if they have their contact information posted, see where they are located at. If possible, email them or call them for information. This will hopefully give you some idea if the vendor is reputable or not.
1 x 100 pill bottle @ 2000mg a day will last you 25 days.
Single bottle will run:
14.95 + 6.90 S&H from ainterol.us (Ships Internationally, took me almost 3 weeks to receive mine, but it was ordered over the holidays. I ordered their special of 3 Bottles + 1 cream w/ Free S&H)
14.95 + 5.95 S&H from ainterolherbs.com (Ships internationally 14 days, 3 more dollars to ship from US distributor delivers in 1-4 days)
If you order more bottles you really don't save anything, price per bottle is the same, but the shipping costs are lower per bottle.
Now each site below will run promotions:
ainterolherbs.com - 3 bottles + Cream for $71.80 + 13.40 S&H (+10 to ship from US distributor) Small Savings of $2.4 if ordered separately.
ainterol.us - 3 bottles + Cream for $74.80 w/ Free S&H You save on the cost of shipping $13.40
Also, from ainterol.us if you order $200 your shipping is Free. So if cost is an issue, then save up and stock up. 14 Bottles = $209.30 Free S&H. @ 2000mg/day that's almost a year supply.
Now I've read reviews and posts about the powders, and that can be significantly cheaper. From user reviews I read that it does not break down very well in liquids so you may not get the full dosage. You can also buy your own empty capsules, but also can be tedious, messy, and again lose some of the contents due to spillage. The sites above say you can mix it in Yogurt or other soya drinks. So if you like yogurt, that may be one easier way to get your dosage.
1000 grams Powder - Equivalent to 2000 x 500mg dosages that's over 16 months of dosages @ 2000mg a day.
ainterol.us - 99.95 + $28.95 S&H (Ships Internationally)
ainterolherbs.com - 99.95 + 30.25 (Ships Internationally 14days, +$15 to ship from US distributor 1-4 days)
So if you really wanted to save some $ then the powder way seems to give you more bang for your buck. I didn't cover the liquid extract since that one can be more costly.
Here is some info I found online on Capsules, vs. Powders, vs. Liquids. I read some posts on here from various people about breaking down their intake to 3-4 times daily. After reading the info below, that seems like that would in theory offer the best absorption by the body.
Capsules refer to the familiar two-piece gelatin capsules that are widely used in supplements and some medications. Their main advantages are their easy-to-swallow characteristics and their ability to break down quickly in the stomach, although, again, not to the point that there’s any nutritional advantage. Vegetarian capsules, of which VegiCaps are the best-known brand, are a gelatin-free alternative rapidly gaining popularity as customers become more hesitant to consume meat by-products like gelatin. Some people like the fact that they can open up capsules and, using all or part of its powdered contents, mix the nutrients into applesauce or a protein shake, for example. That can be a great aid to children or others who have difficulty swallowing pills. The drawbacks of capsules? They cost considerably more than tablets. They have significant space and potency limitations since their powdered contents cannot be compressed to a significant degree. Since capsules are not air-tight, their shelf-life is shorter than tablets. They are not suited to liquid or oil-based nutrients either unless special, expensive encapsulation techniques and products are used.
Powders can be very cost-effective on a dollars-per-nutrient basis, but are also the least convenient to use, since they must be mixed into a liquid, shake or a food. Powders do offer great flexibility with dosing – you can make much finer adjustments to the dose than with tablets and capsules. For supplements taken in gram quantities such as creatine, protein and glutamine, powders are much, much more practical. For example, a typical 5-gram serving of creatine is easy to take; a small scoop of tasteless powder mixed in with water or juice. But to get that same dose with capsules, you’d need 10 x 500 mg capsules or 5 x extra-large 1g capsules.
Liquid supplements. Customers often seek out liquid supplements based on their belief that liquid supplements absorb faster and are therefore better than other forms. They might, but, again, this difference is not great enough to amount to a noticeable or significant nutritional difference, so that’s not really a great reason to go liquid. And as we’ve said, when it comes to essential nutrients, slower absorption may be better. Liquids do offer a lot of flexibility with dosing and are very easy for most people to take. Drawbacks? They are always more expensive on a dollars-per-nutrient basis and their shelf life is shorter than with other formats. They are heavier to transport. They’re not portable like capsules and tablets. They often require refrigeration. Depending on the how it’s made, a liquid supplements often have problems with ingredients settling to the bottom between uses. Even when the bottle is shaken before each use, dispersion of ingredients is imprecise and less consistent than with capsule and tablet products.
@ Outsider: I never thought of it that way, and thank you for pointing out that it's from china o.o
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@ Fuego y Hielo
Thank you for taking so much time to write out that well informed explanation! I think next time I buy a PM product it will be the powder, for price reasons. I DO trust Ainterol more than any other company, but money is such an issue that I'm getting desperate, and that's why I keep asking you all about these discount products I find.
I suggest buying multiple 200gm(100 days @ 2gm) R1 powder bottles since it seems like a better option if you only intend to use 2000gm a day, because I imagine it would slowly start to go bad/get weaker once you open it.
The base cost for 5x 200gm(or 1000gm) r1 powder bottles is $99.75, and if the shipping cost is by weight and not quantity it comes out about the same a a single 1000gm(500 day) bottle+shipping from the ainterol.us website.
Even if the shipping ends up slightly higher the bottles won't go bad before you finish them.
If you don't want to give your credit card info to a foreign company they do accept prepaid visa gift cards(that's what I did)
The ainterol powder isn't hard to drink with water, though it doesn't taste great. I just pour half a dose(500mg) on top of a 1oz shot glass of water and quickly drink it without mixing it to save time, then I repeat with the same dose. Then I just put more water in the glass to get whatever stayed behind.
Right now my only source of income that can be used for NBE is through Points2Shop and Bing Rewards, and between the two I've got about 5 bucks over the past 6 months. That's why cost is my main issue. The two bottles trick I'd never have thought of either, so thank you for that
No credit card either, wife already ruined that for me
