(24-02-2014, 11:17 PM)Karren Wrote: [ -> ]Both probably sense something about you.... the religious one probably just wants to save you..... I'd go for the lesbian!
LOL, Karren. My thoughts exactly!
If I were a lesbian I sure think that having a girlfriend with a little something extra in her panties was a bonus! lol
(24-02-2014, 10:26 PM)Kari Leigh Doodlebug Wrote: [ -> ] (24-02-2014, 04:50 AM)flamesabers Wrote: [ -> ] (23-02-2014, 10:38 PM)whybreasts Wrote: [ -> ]ABRIDGED ...I really do not want to go to her church. That was made clear and she still wants to go out.
Hmm, I wonder about the churchgoer. My thought would be how serious she is about 2 Corinthians 6:14?
Very impressive choice of scriptures Flamesabers! You have stated you're not particularly religious, but that is a very appropriate verse for whybreasts and his lady friend to think about. Actually, it's a wise thing for anyone to consider as they enter into a relationship whether they are Christian, non Christian or something else.
I grew up in a Christian home. (Ironically, throughout the years I attended Sunday school I was often only one of a handful of boys, if not the only boy in my class). As far as I'm aware, practically all of my family is Christian to this day. It's not just transgenderism that I'm the black sheep of the family so to speak. I've also read about the strife that typically ensues when a believer marries to an unbeliever, or when either the husband or wife realize they're no longer a Christian and no longer want to go through the motions anymore. It can become even crazier when the couple have children. Depending on the church, there can be a lot of pressure for a couple to attend services together and be yoked together in a spiritual sense.
I think while people of different beliefs can be a couple, mutual respect is needed for each other's differences in order for the relationship to be sustainable.
For me, this realization dawned on me when I realized that Mrs. Right would have to not only be open about my gender non-conformity/crossdressing, but also not be a devout believer who believes all non-believers must be saved to avoid eternity in hell. I don't like being proselytized to, nor do I appreciate the belief that to be moral one must be a Christian.
(25-02-2014, 01:07 AM)flamesabers Wrote: [ -> ] (24-02-2014, 10:26 PM)Kari Leigh Doodlebug Wrote: [ -> ] (24-02-2014, 04:50 AM)flamesabers Wrote: [ -> ] (23-02-2014, 10:38 PM)whybreasts Wrote: [ -> ]ABRIDGED ...I really do not want to go to her church. That was made clear and she still wants to go out.
Hmm, I wonder about the churchgoer. My thought would be how serious she is about 2 Corinthians 6:14?
Very impressive choice of scriptures Flamesabers! You have stated you're not particularly religious, but that is a very appropriate verse for whybreasts and his lady friend to think about. Actually, it's a wise thing for anyone to consider as they enter into a relationship whether they are Christian, non Christian or something else.
I grew up in a Christian home. (Ironically, throughout the years I attended Sunday school I was often only one of a handful of boys, if not the only boy in my class). As far as I'm aware, practically all of my family is Christian to this day. It's not just transgenderism that I'm the black sheep of the family so to speak. I've also read about the strife that typically ensues when a believer marries to an unbeliever, or when either the husband or wife realize they're no longer a Christian and no longer want to go through the motions anymore. It can become even crazier when the couple have children. Depending on the church, there can be a lot of pressure for a couple to attend services together and be yoked together in a spiritual sense.
I think while people of different beliefs can be a couple, mutual respect is needed for each other's differences in order for the relationship to be sustainable.
For me, this realization dawned on me when I realized that Mrs. Right would have to not only be open about my gender non-conformity/crossdressing, but also not be a devout believer who believes all non-believers must be saved to avoid eternity in hell. I don't like being proselytized to, nor do I appreciate the belief that to be moral one must be a Christian.
It is a great shame that religion is used to persecute people who do not fall on either side of the fence !
I think that goes for most religions .
I am of a firm believer in accepting the world in its full glory , because there so such thing as black/ white .
Many of us here fall in that spectrum here .
Sure glad us heathens don't have all those kind of religious issues... lol
(25-02-2014, 01:05 AM)Karren Wrote: [ -> ]If I were a lesbian I sure think that having a girlfriend with a little something extra in her panties was a bonus! lol
I thought our sexual preference poll awhile back indicated most of us thought we kind of WERE lesbians. LOL
Look I freak about relationships because I do not want to lie to them about who I am. I can't come out. I have found some peace on NBE. I have a good job people are always trying to get me to join their church so they can then work on marrying me off, and they tell me that. I don't have a problem with church it is all the stuff that comes along with it. I do not think that I'm going to come out to anyone unless there are clear signal it is going to be Ok. My lesbian friend I think suspects something about me because of me shaving my arms and legs, and she has also commented on how I smell. Sue me I use girls body wash and deodorant. I do not think that it it is noticeable.
(25-02-2014, 02:33 AM)whybreasts Wrote: [ -> ]Look I freak about relationships because I do not want to lie to them about who I am. I can't come out. I have found some peace on NBE. I have a good job people are always trying to get me to join their church so they can then work on marrying me off, and they tell me that. I don't have a problem with church it is all the stuff that comes along with it. I do not think that I'm going to come out to anyone unless there are clear signal it is going to be Ok. My lesbian friend I think suspects something about me because of me shaving my arms and legs, and she has also commented on how I smell. Sue me I use girls body wash and deodorant. I do not think that it it is noticeable.
I would say go for the lesbian , as she is more likely to understand you.
(25-02-2014, 02:33 AM)whybreasts Wrote: [ -> ]Look I freak about relationships because I do not want to lie to them about who I am. I can't come out. I have found some peace on NBE. I have a good job people are always trying to get me to join their church so they can then work on marrying me off, and they tell me that. I don't have a problem with church it is all the stuff that comes along with it. I do not think that I'm going to come out to anyone unless there are clear signal it is going to be Ok. My lesbian friend I think suspects something about me because of me shaving my arms and legs, and she has also commented on how I smell. Sue me I use girls body wash and deodorant. I do not think that it it is noticeable.
Honey, we are just having a little fun. Sorry. I know it can seem like a pretty serious deal. No one here is judging you at all. Lots of us are closeted or only out to a spouse. It is a tough place to be and no one means to belittle that. Sometimes though the best defense against pain is laughter.
How tough would it be to hide everything?
But even seriously speaking, I still the the lesbian is the better bet.
There are so many factors to consider going into a relationship. I wouldn't prejudge anyone. I don't see any reason to come out early-on to anyone, though. You wouldn't reveal other aspects of your life to someone who you only started dating would you? Medical, financial, even sexual aspects of your life shouldn't be divulged lightly.
My concern would be what PM is doing to you physically, and how that could impact your budding relationship, especially if there's sexual activity right away. For me PM just about destroys my male sex function -- not that it was all that great to begin with. That fact, alone, could force an explanation that would require a discussion of your TG leanings. I don't mean to scare you, but keep that in mind.
And, I wouldn't fall into the trap of stereotyping religious women. They can be very hot numbers in the bedroom, and socially liberal in other ways, too.
I'd give both a whirl and see what feels right.
Clara Kay