Was just wondering why on another form I go to once in a while, they won't allow any posts regarding PM at all. They talk about HRT and other things, but will absolutely not allow anything with regards to PM. Is PM not viewed as "legit" or not worthy by the transgender community as a general rule? Maybe it's just that one site... Just trying to understand, not knocking anybody. Anyone with possible explanations? Thanks...
SSxx
Hello slippyslidie.
You're not alone in this regard. I don't post about NBE in other forums, but numerous other members here have observed a bias against pm and other herbs.
These are some relevant posts you may find interesting:
(06-03-2013, 08:19 PM)moniker Wrote: [ -> ] (06-03-2013, 05:25 AM)Lenneth Wrote: [ -> ]on TG Boards, I have never been able to figure out why they are so absurdly against herbs, in-betweens & self med.....
I just posted some more transgender specific questions elsewhere and OMG, they are ALL so self-defeatist, it's insane. I roughly outlined the metabolic 'trick' here, and their reaction was, more or less, "I didn't read what you wrote, but only HRT works" (literally just a ton of variations of the same thing).
>_>- Maybe everyone is so wrapped up in the wait for diagnosis and the 'official' explanation that they are sucked into a devotion to the state approved way. Whether it's the only way or not, I can't tolerate that attitude.
(13-12-2012, 06:24 AM)Lenneth Wrote: [ -> ] (13-12-2012, 12:41 AM)bryony Wrote: [ -> ]They have quite an extensive list of rules of what can and cannot be discussed. I only found out after I had transgressed.... well, who reads all the rules before posting? It's usually common sense - but not in this case!
If you can Call the NYC Phone book Extensive....
many sites are sadly like that in rules due to fears over getting sued for one load of BS or another.
One site owner once told me that they had the "No Herbal/Natural Discussion" rule because of the laws that basically say you cant claim a herb etc can do xy or z unless you have up to date Big Pharma Approved Paperwork saying so or else big pharma or some gold digging piece of trash can sue you into oblivion....
sorry for the rant but that kind of thing is something that really gets me bent out of shape...
Thanks for the reply Flame, very interesting...
Glad to hear that I am not the only one that finds this kindof annoying. I felt annoyed and also it felt like they looked down their noses at someone like me who is on PM, you know, somehow cheapening it... But I for one have no intentions of stopping the wonderful herb called PM and let them think what they wanna think!!! We know it works, don't we heheh (Even though it has only been 6 weeks or so for me, I can already feel the changes inside and a bit of growth plus the curves are starting, and I can definitely see that it works on a lot of you great folks on the forum). Have a great nite and thanks for enlightening me!
SS xx
(04-10-2013, 04:09 AM)slippyslidie Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for the reply Flame, very interesting...
Glad to hear that I am not the only one that finds this kindof annoying.
To say it is annoying is like saying the surface of the sun might be a little warm...
(04-10-2013, 04:09 AM)slippyslidie Wrote: [ -> ]I felt annoyed and also it felt like they looked down their noses at someone like me who is on PM,
Actually most of them do look down their noses at us.
I once saw someone refer to ones like that as "Believing they were the High Priestess(s) of Gender Issues" which actually describes them quite well.
There are a bunch of other Non NBE sites out there that are drastically more open minded.
(Hard to Believe someone with GID would ever have to say something like that about others with GID)
Yes agreed
Its totally pathetic
The only site that agrees with us is
Evenesce Herbal site, which has a HUGE wealth of transitioning and
"balancing" people like us,
They do not allow photos there but I have had comms with some and seen some of the beautiful development some have had,
Evenesce use small amounts of pm in their combinations, so our dosages are more potent,
Have a look lots of info
Julie
(04-10-2013, 09:24 AM)julieTG Wrote: [ -> ]The only site that agrees with us is
Evenesce Herbal site, which has a HUGE wealth of transitioning and
"balancing" people like us,
Their are a number of other sites, mostly the small ones you just have to look around.
Thanks Julie, will have a look at Evenesce, sounds interesting. I will do a search and try to find other smaller PM friendly sites.
It truly is a sad thing that we aren't accepted at the larger sites, I mean, aren't we all in the same boat? Perhaps they do not view some of us in-betweeners as worthy enough, bah, thank god we have this forum!
Have a great day!!!
SSxx
Susans place is very good
They frown on herbals,
but sites good
Julie
Over on
www.crossdressers.com there was a big fight between the "hormones are the only way to grow real breasts" and the rest of us.... and the Admin finally got tired of the bickering and banned the subject of growing breasts in all forums except the transsexual body issues forum where they can talk hormones amongst themselves...
(04-10-2013, 02:21 PM)julieTG Wrote: [ -> ]Susans place is very good
They frown on herbals,
but sites good
Julie
they also have an issue with In-Betweens
crossplay.net are ok with in-betweens but have a rule against herbs/self-med which i am working on getting the owner to remove/re-define, also the site owner has been mia for quite some time, no one has been able to contact her for reasons unknown.
(hope she is ok)
menwearbras seems to not really give a hoot about what you post as long as it isn't illegal or a personal attack.
tgcomics (owned/operated by "femur") forum seems similar to menwearbras but I have yet to mention NBE or stumble on any nbe or even partial transition type discussions, but it is primaraly a TG Transformation comic forum.
tgboards is one that has no rules about herbs or NBE but I have yet to touch on the subject there so the Jurry is "Officially" out on that site.
I'll add more to this list later.