Hi,
thought you all would be interested in this.
I just saw this perfect example of why I think FFS should be provided as an option (if costs are an issue) to SRS (though I don't particularly want to argue about it) at least - if I were young, single and wealthy, it's what I would go for.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...woman.html
What a difference! Imagine the starting point with as much makeup as you can, and it still wouldn't convince me. The last ones though.... no problem.
B.
(10-01-2013, 04:04 PM)bryony Wrote: [ -> ]Hi,
thought you all would be interested in this.
I just saw this perfect example of why I think FFS should be provided as an option (if costs are an issue) to SRS (though I don't particularly want to argue about it) at least - if I were young, single and wealthy, it's what I would go for.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...woman.html
What a difference! Imagine the starting point with as much makeup as you can, and it still wouldn't convince me. The last ones though.... no problem.
B.
*Jaw Hits Floor* (Ouch!)
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Nice Results, but shame it mentions "Surgery"
(11-01-2013, 12:16 AM)Lenneth Wrote: [ -> ]*Jaw Hits Floor* (Ouch!)
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Nice Results, but shame it mentions "Surgery"
Eh... I'm quite fully planning on getting a few surgeries myself... Eventually... As and when and if I can afford them. There's one though that I WILL find a way to have done eventually whatever the cost...
(11-01-2013, 12:21 AM)AbiDrew85 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2013, 12:16 AM)Lenneth Wrote: [ -> ]*Jaw Hits Floor* (Ouch!)
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Nice Results, but shame it mentions "Surgery"
Eh... I'm quite fully planning on getting a few surgeries myself... Eventually... As and when and if I can afford them. There's one though that I WILL find a way to have done eventually whatever the cost...
i'm somewhat phobic of doctors as well as surgery, wish i wasn't.
the thought of either sends a shiver down my spine.....
(11-01-2013, 12:56 AM)Lenneth Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2013, 12:21 AM)AbiDrew85 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2013, 12:16 AM)Lenneth Wrote: [ -> ]*Jaw Hits Floor* (Ouch!)
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Nice Results, but shame it mentions "Surgery"
Eh... I'm quite fully planning on getting a few surgeries myself... Eventually... As and when and if I can afford them. There's one though that I WILL find a way to have done eventually whatever the cost...
i'm somewhat phobic of doctors as well as surgery, wish i wasn't.
the thought of either sends a shiver down my spine.....
I once had a dental condition that required a minor surgery - Apicoectomy - they had to go through the gum to fix a root canal that went wrong. I was so scared that I waited until the unpleasantness of the condition overcame the fear. I guess if I were desperate enough to want to live as a female, the fear of being "made" would overcome my fear of surgery. At least its fairly external... not the internal plumbing kind!
B.
(11-01-2013, 01:57 AM)bryony Wrote: [ -> ]I once had a dental condition that required a minor surgery - Apicoectomy - they had to go through the gum to fix a root canal that went wrong. I was so scared that I waited until the unpleasantness of the condition overcame the fear.
Sounds exactly the same as me, I have to be in real BAD shape before I'll even think of heading to the doctor.
I'm trying to break myself of it though as the last time I waited and waited until I was REAL bad before finally going to a Doctor, I came frighteningly close to ending up up in a pine box because of it....
(and it took a lot longer to get well again)
(11-01-2013, 04:49 AM)Lenneth Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2013, 01:57 AM)bryony Wrote: [ -> ]I once had a dental condition that required a minor surgery - Apicoectomy - they had to go through the gum to fix a root canal that went wrong. I was so scared that I waited until the unpleasantness of the condition overcame the fear.
Sounds exactly the same as me, I have to be in real BAD shape before I'll even think of heading to the doctor.
I'm trying to break myself of it though as the last time I waited and waited until I was REAL bad before finally going to a Doctor, I came frighteningly close to ending up up in a pine box because of it....
(and it took a lot longer to get well again)
That's a bad alternative, definitely!
B.
(11-01-2013, 05:57 PM)bryony Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2013, 04:49 AM)Lenneth Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2013, 01:57 AM)bryony Wrote: [ -> ]I once had a dental condition that required a minor surgery - Apicoectomy - they had to go through the gum to fix a root canal that went wrong. I was so scared that I waited until the unpleasantness of the condition overcame the fear.
Sounds exactly the same as me, I have to be in real BAD shape before I'll even think of heading to the doctor.
I'm trying to break myself of it though as the last time I waited and waited until I was REAL bad before finally going to a Doctor, I came frighteningly close to ending up up in a pine box because of it....
(and it took a lot longer to get well again)
That's a bad alternative, definitely!
B.
Don't remind me.....not a experience I EVER wish to repeat....
FFS is certainly an important option for some. But I've seen quite a few young and older transitioners that simply don't need it after about a year or two on HRT. They aren't going to be knockouts but most women aren't either. Keep in mind that first link, she was 22 months into HRT in that last pic too.
There are plenty that are passable without FFS and in these cases, you would never clock them unless you had hindsight. Confidence, voice, makeup, hair style, grooming, mannerisms.. make up such a huge percentage in passing in day to day life.
Unlke US, most people don't think about transgender issues, they just don't think "is that really a woman?" on a daily basis.
Personally Trachael shave and FFS are WAY WAY ahead of SRS on my list. Who gets SRS first these days anyway? Most people are concerned with passing.
Anyway, theres always chasers to date in the meantime
