Breast Growth For Genetic Males

Hello,
Me and the wife were playing around with the measuring tape last night.( nothing dirty) so we took my measurements,under bust was 35, across the nips was barely 39.Sooo according to the charts i have read about measuring that say to add 4 to the under bust measurement that would put me in negative numbers.not even an aaa cup. I am completely stumped.I am no where near flat chested. strange
Diva Chick 32....

(11-07-2012, 10:49 PM)Diva chick 32 Wrote: [ -> ]Hello,
Me and the wife were playing around with the measuring tape last night.( nothing dirty) so we took my measurements,under bust was 35, across the nips was barely 39.Sooo according to the charts i have read about measuring that say to add 4 to the under bust measurement that would put me in negative numbers.not even an aaa cup. I am completely stumped.I am no where near flat chested. strange
Diva Chick 32....

Hi,

I think this should help.

http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=7105&pid=20790#pid20790

B.

I posted the following back more than a year ago on the topic.

http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=7862

Short summary: Due to the difference in male rib cage shape compared to female rib cage shape, men usually can't measure using the women's rules.
Here's one way to approach it. Measure your underbust. Round it up to an even number if working in inches like many people do. That is your starting band size. Measure over the nipples, either using the more involved method in the post I linked, or just do the usual around the chest over the nipples one, although I don't think it works as well. How well it works isn't a big deal when you understand the how the proper fit magic works for this. If you use the usual around the chest over the nipples one, then use the women's sizing rule for cup size with your band size being your actual underbust size, *without adding anything*.
The magic to getting a proper fit? Whatever method you use, it is only a starting point. There is no standard for the shaping, support, width, projection, compression, or stretch in bras. Pick six random bras with the same bra size on their labels. They will all fit differently. You have to try them to know. The tape measure can only give you a starting point. A bra fitter is likely a much better starting point than a tape measure but unrealistic as an option for most of us. I also think that the band sizing gets more squirrely as the size goes up because they don't use the same ratio of measurement to manufactured size as the smaller band sizes. No doubt this is due the difference in how women put extra inches on in the upper body compared to how men do it.

Further to the above, the band size rules at http://www.herroom.com/bra-fitting-advice,901,30.html work for men more less. The cup size rules are way wrong. By their rule, my 43 nipple measure on my 37.5" underbust would put me in a 38DD or 38E. That would be absurd. The rule in my older post linked above tells me that for my 9" boob on my 38" band, I should be in a 38B which is what actually fits best. I've never seen anyone post their measures to see if my little formula holds for sizes other than my own.

Maybe we need a new thread for that, I'll go start one.

I've said this before on the subject of bra sizing, but I'm gonna repeat it again, sorry!

The 'standard' starting point is to measure round the ribs, under the breasts and then add 4 or 5 to get an even number and that is your band size. Cups are 1 size increase for every inch your bust size ( round the nipples) is greater than the rib measurement.

The two big problems with that are:
(a) That they were derived back before WW2 by one of the large manufacturers of the time ( possibly Berlei but I can't quite remember) and female body shapes have changed markedly since then, both in bone structure, body fat levels and simply physical size because of better nutrition. It also takes no account of physical differences due to racial origin. Finally, of course, from our POV it makes no allowance for the differences between male body shape and female body shape, on top of all the other changes.
(b) When the system was devised, fabrics were extremely limited compared to now, and straps etc were all non-stretch apart from possibly a small piece of wide elastic at the back fastening, and some bras didn't have that even in the 50's.

Because of that, the "plus 4 or 5" was necessary to allow breathing and make use of body fat to give some comfort ( put a snug belt round your ribs and see what its like to try to do anything - unless you like a tight laced corset ).

Now there are loads of stretch fabrics available so the tightness isn't an issue, there are now countless manufacturers and all have their own sizing methods, and there are the body shape variables I mentioned above. The bottom line is that the actual numbers on bra sizing mean almost nothing, except to get you into roughly the right area.
If you buy from one manufacturer then you might find your size and stick to it, but there will be differences from one make to another.
If you buy own-brand from a big chain store/supermarket, then you will almost certainly find they get them from an assortment of far-eastern manufacturers and there is little consistency from model to model even within one brand.

My ribs measurement is 35". In 'theory' that means I should wear a size 40. I currently wear a 36 and that is beautifully comfortable, a 40 would fall off and do nothing. Also, the edges of the underwire, at the sides, go just to the back of my boobs under the front edges of my armpits and I wouldn't want them to go back any further because it would get uncomfortable.

i just went to lane bryant, the lady sized me up well. She was so nice and sweet about it and totally understood. Shoulda saw the girls there when she measured me seing as i was bigger then alot of them hehe.

I know that there are more combinations of factors that go into sizing women's garments than men's garments, but it seems to me that women have been letting the fashion industry push them around when it comes to measurements and consistency.

In the USA, male pants are measured waist size by inseam (both in inches). So after I lose weight someday, I might be 36 x 30.

Male dress shirts are measured neck girth by sleeve length (both in inches), so I would be 16 x 34.

And almost all garments with a specific size measurement are the same size. There's almost no need to try anything on, just grab your size from the rack, pay, and go home. Manufacturer's who vary too much from accepted sizing don't sell anything and soon either get with the program or go out of business.

A woman, on the other hand, can wear a size 10 dress at J.C. Penney's (mid price store) and the same woman would be a size 6 at Neiman Marcus (wealthy people's store). So I guess that it's true that the rich are different.

Back to bras, if all men wore bras, if the chest measurement was 32 and the bust was 38 the size wouldn't be 36B the size would 32 x 38. Easy peasy. None of this "add 4 if even and 5 if odd" or "2 inch difference between bust and calculated band (the plus 4 or 5) is a B". If only it were so. Ok, some breasts are fuller than others, so that factor could be suffixed to the size giving something like 32 x 38 small/medium/large or slender/average/full or some similar terminology.

*Cringing in a corner expecting a deluge of negative comments*

I've stopped measuring anything because a tape measure doesn't change anything.

Besides, I have a bit of a gut to lose first. Once that's under control, any growth up top will be much more visible.

I think programming a VCR is alot easier than figuring the size,hahahha..

reminds me of the old english grammar rule I before E except after C or in the words that sound like way or day.. .

Yeah odd, i know, but just seems to fit