20-04-2012, 07:57 PM
Have been lurking for a while now. This is probably going to sound really dumb to the lot of you that have been here for a while and well into your programs and has probably been more or less answered a zillion times but I will ask anyway.
I have a little bit of gynecomastia I presume from the repeated weight gains and losses but nothing that doesn't appear at outward glance as anything different than a normal male chest of someone who is overweight. Not sure what my ideal weight should be.
Anyway, I have been taking 1000mg a day for a while now with very little noticeable effects outwardly. I have noticed facial hair growth has slowed and I think genitals have shrunk a bit. ONce I tackle the abundant chest and back hair growth I plan to ramp up my intake of PM but I have questions.
Obviously you are introducing an outside source of estrogen into the body. I know that the male body produces some anyway but not enough on its own to affect major changes. Does the body depend solely on the miroestrol to provide the hormones needed for any growth or work in conjunction with the body's natural estrogen production. If and when you stop do estrogen levels return to "normal" levels or will they stay elevated? Do I try something like saw palmetto in conjunction with the PM to see if it has any effect. Too much information on various websites really muddies the waters as to whether or not there is any more effect from saw palmetto than from a placebo.
I am not sure how far I plan to travel down this road but I like the changes I have so far noticed. Not having to shave more than twice a week is a bonus. SKin seems somewhat smoother as well and while it goes against common sense I have lost 10 pounds since starting while not really changing my lifestyle at all. Also rather puzzling at least to my optometrist my eyeglass prescription has changed for the better. He can't explain it nor can i but my presbyopia seems to be improving to the extent that I don't need those damn bifocals any more. The big plus though is that my mood has softened to a major degree.
SO even at current levels there are many reasons to continue on with the current dosage but I am seriously contemplating increasing the dosage to develop more female characteristics but need to make sure that what I think I want is what I really want.
I have a little bit of gynecomastia I presume from the repeated weight gains and losses but nothing that doesn't appear at outward glance as anything different than a normal male chest of someone who is overweight. Not sure what my ideal weight should be.
Anyway, I have been taking 1000mg a day for a while now with very little noticeable effects outwardly. I have noticed facial hair growth has slowed and I think genitals have shrunk a bit. ONce I tackle the abundant chest and back hair growth I plan to ramp up my intake of PM but I have questions.
Obviously you are introducing an outside source of estrogen into the body. I know that the male body produces some anyway but not enough on its own to affect major changes. Does the body depend solely on the miroestrol to provide the hormones needed for any growth or work in conjunction with the body's natural estrogen production. If and when you stop do estrogen levels return to "normal" levels or will they stay elevated? Do I try something like saw palmetto in conjunction with the PM to see if it has any effect. Too much information on various websites really muddies the waters as to whether or not there is any more effect from saw palmetto than from a placebo.
I am not sure how far I plan to travel down this road but I like the changes I have so far noticed. Not having to shave more than twice a week is a bonus. SKin seems somewhat smoother as well and while it goes against common sense I have lost 10 pounds since starting while not really changing my lifestyle at all. Also rather puzzling at least to my optometrist my eyeglass prescription has changed for the better. He can't explain it nor can i but my presbyopia seems to be improving to the extent that I don't need those damn bifocals any more. The big plus though is that my mood has softened to a major degree.
SO even at current levels there are many reasons to continue on with the current dosage but I am seriously contemplating increasing the dosage to develop more female characteristics but need to make sure that what I think I want is what I really want.