26-04-2023, 10:40 AM
(This post was last modified: 26-04-2023, 12:12 PM by HelloDiDi.
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Essential stuff to have:
Onviously a Noogleberry breasts pump system. Use their sizing guide but I recommend getting the biggest domes that you can make a decent seal with. The point is to get the entire breast root pulled in at once. Use round domes, contoured ones have horrible edges and they will hurt you, just don't do contoured domes. Get the silicone rings for softening the edges. Get airlocks, you want the convenience of being able to pump one dome at a time and to detach the pump. Get gauged pump, one without will hurt you as you can't control the pressure and wont have zero idea what the optimal is, no exceptions, get the gauged pump.
You can also use water as a medium inside the domes while pumping (I do this) which gives more even pressure but its a bit tricky, the pump will break if water enters. I use the long Y-connector tubing with one end sealed, other in the pump and third one has air lock plug which attaches to the dome, this way water drops will go to the lowest part of the Y and not the pump. After use, open the sealed end, squeeze pump end shut and blow some air through to get the water out. Old fashioned audio plug adaptor is perfect size for sealing the bottom end of the tubing.
Optimal program:
3-5 hours per day. One to two days off each week for healing and recovery. The idea is to not let the swelling go completely down except when you sleep and of course on break days. These hours divided to 3-5 sessions to keep the frequency high enough. Use lubricant or lotion of some kind for better seal and to keep your skin elastic. You may or may not use water as a medium, if you do, be careful to not ruin the pump and do the session lying on your back obviously.
Setup:
Start slowly, do not overdo it, do not rush, don't be stupid. You don't want to hurt your lovely titties but to grow them.
Place the domes as centered as possible and maybe also as low as possible. The most typical spot when men and trans women miss fullness is bottom and centre. Also by doing this you ensure you wont be sucking your armpit in. In your armpit and at the edge of your pecs, there are big arteries and ton of nerves! You DO NOT ever want to get those nerves pinched (permanent nerve damage may occur!), so keep the domes away from there. Its not difficult as those areas are sensitive and you will get massive brain splitting pain if you hit the wrong place for too long and too hard. Trust me, never pump your armpits in, you will regret it. Centered is the best way and center + low is even better if you're missinng bottom fullness. One trick to make sure the domes stay together is to use a rope or a belt to tie them next to each other. This makes sure they stay centered even if you lie on your back.
Frequncy first, time second, pressure last:
First build up the frequency, meaning that you do enough short sessions that the swelling wont completely go down during the day. Of course when ever you have the time for it, more is more. I recommend doing 3-5 sessions per day with few hour intervals. Awesome when ever you have a lazy day at home and nothing to hurry about. So start by doing 15-25 minutes per session, then add five minutes to each session once a week. Take one or two days a week completely off, for example Wednesday and Sunday or Monday and Thursday. DO NOT rush adding in the time, be patient. Five to ten minute increments once each week and you'll be blasting full hours in no time.
Always keep the pressure at optimal or a bit lower. I've started doing lower than optimal since I got the XXXL domes as these things are very challenging to tame. Optimal pressure on Noogleberry gauge is with the needle facing right, that's approximately -5 inHg (Black) or -0,2 bar (red) so going one or two notches lower than that will guarantee you're not hurting your girls. The idea of this pressure is that it excites cell division while not causing damage. But there is a theory that tiny cell level damage may elevate local growth hormone and growth factor levels which is of course beneficial for breast development.
First build up frequency to keep the swelling going, then build up time, I would say the most optimally effective total time is 3-5 hours a day, but less will also give you results. I'm seeing massive changes using the new domes doing only 2-3 hours a day. Then lastly, you can build up the pressure, but NEVER exceed the optimal, just don't do it! It would give better swelling but it will also cause damage which shows as tiny blood blisters, sore spots with broken skin, long lasting dome edge marks and worst of all, very long lasting discolouration. I've had these all and have some right now so I know what not to do. Right now I'm slowly healing from all this while keeping the program going, being much more gentle with the new domes has been the key.
Pain is your best friend, listen to your body:
Pain is your friend, discomfort is normal and to be expected, but actual pain is your body telling you that its too much, you're overdoing it and should take a break, lower the pressure or do shorter sessions. Never ignore the pain, its your body telling you that you have reached the limits. Don't feel bad for stepping back with session duration if its too tough, Noogling has a learning curve and slowly building the tolerance is essential for making it work.
Wider the domes, slowler and longer the learning curve will be, keep this in mind when updating to bigger domes, its like starting all over again each time. Don't rush it! Take your time. Don't pick too small ones, pick the widest you can handle. Remember that depending on how much air there is inside the dome while pumping, that changes how intense the pressure is. Using a medium like water makes the pressure more even so more to the sides, less around areolas, this makes pumping with water much more demanding and intense, but it also might give better swelling. Update to bigger domes in time, don't wait until there's zero space left, doing that will make your boobs more prone to injury. The thing is about space in the domes while under pressure and the dome width being enough for pulling the entire breast root in. If its too narrow for your milkies, it will cause blisters and discolouration easier, I will post pictures to demonstrate this problem. I had it with XXL domes which I have totally outgrown by now, I used them for too long.
My history with Noogling:
I started with a cheapo brandless pump back in 2019, quite soon updated to Noogleberry, XL contoured which was a mistake, no airlocks which was a mistake, no gauged pump which also was a mistake. I also overdid it very badly and got to learn what blood blisters, dome edge marks, busted broken skin, near permanent sores and long term discolouration are. Do not repeat my mistakes. Later I updated to XXL round domes, gauged pump and air locks and started using water as a medium and not exceeding optimal pressure by much. It was much better but I still got injury from just being too rigorous and too much of a nutjob. I only lately retired the XXL domes when the situation had become unbearable due to my breasts having massive wide roots and lots of volume. Me and Melissa were lucky to be able to source the out of production XXXL domes as Lucy at Noogle was so awesome to send out to dig up their manufacturers corners for them and they found a pair for both of us. Talk about getting lucky. The XXXLs have inner volume of five litres in total or 5000ccs, so that will be the end of the road for my noogling, there's still quite ways to go there. I've been kinda nuts, right now I have recorded bit less than 1500 hours on it in the last two years, most of that during the last ten months. Its gving me amazing results and the key is to be resilient and slow, turtle wins the race. Listen to your body and have fun with it. It works. Its a growth amplifier, it will enhance your NBE and HRT results to another level if you persevere.
First picture showing the difference of the XL contoured, XXL and XXXL domes. Each is approx 1000cc jump in volume. Second is Mar 5th, third Apr 15th and the last Feb 8th Note the difference in discolouration after switching to correctly wide domes. Also I've used medicine cream and Bio-oil to help fix it. Its still fading all while keeping the program going. Gosh these aren't the best examples... Anyway, I guess the point comes across. In the oldest the discolouration from the dome is very visible and on later ones its already fading, notice that reddish ring around my areola, that was the only spot that was not hugging the dome wall when I switched over.
Onviously a Noogleberry breasts pump system. Use their sizing guide but I recommend getting the biggest domes that you can make a decent seal with. The point is to get the entire breast root pulled in at once. Use round domes, contoured ones have horrible edges and they will hurt you, just don't do contoured domes. Get the silicone rings for softening the edges. Get airlocks, you want the convenience of being able to pump one dome at a time and to detach the pump. Get gauged pump, one without will hurt you as you can't control the pressure and wont have zero idea what the optimal is, no exceptions, get the gauged pump.
You can also use water as a medium inside the domes while pumping (I do this) which gives more even pressure but its a bit tricky, the pump will break if water enters. I use the long Y-connector tubing with one end sealed, other in the pump and third one has air lock plug which attaches to the dome, this way water drops will go to the lowest part of the Y and not the pump. After use, open the sealed end, squeeze pump end shut and blow some air through to get the water out. Old fashioned audio plug adaptor is perfect size for sealing the bottom end of the tubing.
Optimal program:
3-5 hours per day. One to two days off each week for healing and recovery. The idea is to not let the swelling go completely down except when you sleep and of course on break days. These hours divided to 3-5 sessions to keep the frequency high enough. Use lubricant or lotion of some kind for better seal and to keep your skin elastic. You may or may not use water as a medium, if you do, be careful to not ruin the pump and do the session lying on your back obviously.
Setup:
Start slowly, do not overdo it, do not rush, don't be stupid. You don't want to hurt your lovely titties but to grow them.
Place the domes as centered as possible and maybe also as low as possible. The most typical spot when men and trans women miss fullness is bottom and centre. Also by doing this you ensure you wont be sucking your armpit in. In your armpit and at the edge of your pecs, there are big arteries and ton of nerves! You DO NOT ever want to get those nerves pinched (permanent nerve damage may occur!), so keep the domes away from there. Its not difficult as those areas are sensitive and you will get massive brain splitting pain if you hit the wrong place for too long and too hard. Trust me, never pump your armpits in, you will regret it. Centered is the best way and center + low is even better if you're missinng bottom fullness. One trick to make sure the domes stay together is to use a rope or a belt to tie them next to each other. This makes sure they stay centered even if you lie on your back. Frequncy first, time second, pressure last:
First build up the frequency, meaning that you do enough short sessions that the swelling wont completely go down during the day. Of course when ever you have the time for it, more is more. I recommend doing 3-5 sessions per day with few hour intervals. Awesome when ever you have a lazy day at home and nothing to hurry about. So start by doing 15-25 minutes per session, then add five minutes to each session once a week. Take one or two days a week completely off, for example Wednesday and Sunday or Monday and Thursday. DO NOT rush adding in the time, be patient. Five to ten minute increments once each week and you'll be blasting full hours in no time.
Always keep the pressure at optimal or a bit lower. I've started doing lower than optimal since I got the XXXL domes as these things are very challenging to tame. Optimal pressure on Noogleberry gauge is with the needle facing right, that's approximately -5 inHg (Black) or -0,2 bar (red) so going one or two notches lower than that will guarantee you're not hurting your girls. The idea of this pressure is that it excites cell division while not causing damage. But there is a theory that tiny cell level damage may elevate local growth hormone and growth factor levels which is of course beneficial for breast development.
First build up frequency to keep the swelling going, then build up time, I would say the most optimally effective total time is 3-5 hours a day, but less will also give you results. I'm seeing massive changes using the new domes doing only 2-3 hours a day. Then lastly, you can build up the pressure, but NEVER exceed the optimal, just don't do it! It would give better swelling but it will also cause damage which shows as tiny blood blisters, sore spots with broken skin, long lasting dome edge marks and worst of all, very long lasting discolouration. I've had these all and have some right now so I know what not to do. Right now I'm slowly healing from all this while keeping the program going, being much more gentle with the new domes has been the key.
Pain is your best friend, listen to your body:
Pain is your friend, discomfort is normal and to be expected, but actual pain is your body telling you that its too much, you're overdoing it and should take a break, lower the pressure or do shorter sessions. Never ignore the pain, its your body telling you that you have reached the limits. Don't feel bad for stepping back with session duration if its too tough, Noogling has a learning curve and slowly building the tolerance is essential for making it work.
Wider the domes, slowler and longer the learning curve will be, keep this in mind when updating to bigger domes, its like starting all over again each time. Don't rush it! Take your time. Don't pick too small ones, pick the widest you can handle. Remember that depending on how much air there is inside the dome while pumping, that changes how intense the pressure is. Using a medium like water makes the pressure more even so more to the sides, less around areolas, this makes pumping with water much more demanding and intense, but it also might give better swelling. Update to bigger domes in time, don't wait until there's zero space left, doing that will make your boobs more prone to injury. The thing is about space in the domes while under pressure and the dome width being enough for pulling the entire breast root in. If its too narrow for your milkies, it will cause blisters and discolouration easier, I will post pictures to demonstrate this problem. I had it with XXL domes which I have totally outgrown by now, I used them for too long.
My history with Noogling:
I started with a cheapo brandless pump back in 2019, quite soon updated to Noogleberry, XL contoured which was a mistake, no airlocks which was a mistake, no gauged pump which also was a mistake. I also overdid it very badly and got to learn what blood blisters, dome edge marks, busted broken skin, near permanent sores and long term discolouration are. Do not repeat my mistakes. Later I updated to XXL round domes, gauged pump and air locks and started using water as a medium and not exceeding optimal pressure by much. It was much better but I still got injury from just being too rigorous and too much of a nutjob. I only lately retired the XXL domes when the situation had become unbearable due to my breasts having massive wide roots and lots of volume. Me and Melissa were lucky to be able to source the out of production XXXL domes as Lucy at Noogle was so awesome to send out to dig up their manufacturers corners for them and they found a pair for both of us. Talk about getting lucky. The XXXLs have inner volume of five litres in total or 5000ccs, so that will be the end of the road for my noogling, there's still quite ways to go there. I've been kinda nuts, right now I have recorded bit less than 1500 hours on it in the last two years, most of that during the last ten months. Its gving me amazing results and the key is to be resilient and slow, turtle wins the race. Listen to your body and have fun with it. It works. Its a growth amplifier, it will enhance your NBE and HRT results to another level if you persevere.
First picture showing the difference of the XL contoured, XXL and XXXL domes. Each is approx 1000cc jump in volume. Second is Mar 5th, third Apr 15th and the last Feb 8th Note the difference in discolouration after switching to correctly wide domes. Also I've used medicine cream and Bio-oil to help fix it. Its still fading all while keeping the program going. Gosh these aren't the best examples... Anyway, I guess the point comes across. In the oldest the discolouration from the dome is very visible and on later ones its already fading, notice that reddish ring around my areola, that was the only spot that was not hugging the dome wall when I switched over.
I had wanted to write a guide on this for a long time. I thought why not now as I mentioned a lot of this in Jennifer's thread. I will keep adding in more details and what ever stuff comes up about it, Noogle is awesome piece of the boob puzzle and a lot of fun but I've seen way too many either under or overdo it and repeat the same mistakes. Most of which I have done too and learned the hard way, so I thought to put down a decent guide on how to make the most out of it without injury.
