[tanysquirrel]

so , I had mentioned about "ghost ovaries" in another post (I know, sounds like I am off my rocker). 

I  had originally been listening to a binaural on youtube that had to do with ovaries. It just so happened, that where ovaries *should be* started cramping up. it seemed to only cramp when I listened to it, outside of that, nothing. 

so I started ramping up on the B.O. pills after doing a body cleanse. I laid down for a nap earlier today, when I woke up, my "ghost ovaries" are at it again. .. pressure, throbbing, cramping in the area that ovaries are supposed to be, and no, I did not listen to any ovary binurals.

Has ANYONE experienced anything similar? anyone at all?

weird, I know.

[The First Aria]

Sounds like you need to book a doctor, to me.

[Elissa-FinallyAChick]

Ovaries?
Wishful thinking me thinks.
If you tell this to a therapist you will be excluded from ever going on pharma HRT. They will see you as mentally unstable. 
Hypnosis videos don’t work. You are as feminine as your innate gender identity allows you to. A video is not going to change your gender identity. So if you watch those videos to feel more like a woman then it’s just your imagination speaking. You eithe feel female or not. You can’t start feeling female all of a sudden.

[julieTG]

So how do you explain 

Phantom breasts then

Very common in bi gender and trans people, quite commonly accepted and now undergoing scientific research

I too have phantom breasts feelings

Julie

[The First Aria]

So how do you explain 

Phantom breasts then

Very common in bi gender and trans people, quite commonly accepted and now undergoing scientific research

I too have phantom breasts feelings

Julie

???   So, Julie< you really don't have breasts?  Or are you talking like discomfort pangs?

[Elissa-FinallyAChick]

So how do you explain 

Phantom breasts then

Very common in bi gender and trans people, quite commonly accepted and now undergoing scientific research

I too have phantom breasts feelings

Julie

Phantom breasts is Tumblr talk.

Hypnosis, phantom breasts are Tumblr-esque talk.

The only solution to solve intense  gender dysphoria is medical transition. 


2 years on HRT have given me B-cups. Enough for me to not feel the need to claim that I have invisible breasts hanging on my chest but that no one except I can see them. 
I believe that if you want breasts and want to live as a female you should transition. Phantom breasts, ghost ovaries,... are Tumblr-esque wishful thinking.

I just felt that I needed to have a feminine body because I suffered from seeing male characteristics on my body. That’s what gender dysphoria is.

No medical professional will claim phantom breasts as a sign of dysphoria. They will see it as an instability in someone’s beliefs.

[julieTG]

Lecture over is it ??
Go do some research

Julie

[Elissa-FinallyAChick]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2902108/

I researched the phenomenon you claim.
This is only recognised in mastectomized cis women. 
Since as a pre-E trans woman you have no breasts and didn’t have them before, you cannot experience phantom breasts because phantom limbs are what the cell remembers about something that used to be there.
There were no breasts on that place before so your cells cannot remember anything about that. Pure wishful thinking on your part.
Just go on Estradiol and anti-androgens already and transition. Then in a few years you have fully developed breasts but please cut that crap about phantom breasts in pre-HRT mtf’s cause it’s not even medically recognised. Only anecdotal talk.

[Elissa-FinallyAChick]

Lecture over is it ??
Go do some research

Julie

I am not giving you a lecture, Julie. 
I’m telling you what medical science says about it. 
You gave your 0.02$ about the phenomenon, so I can give my input too, right? 
Don’t take everything so harsh.

[julieTG]

Do pls read


Abstract

Between the two extreme ends of human sexuality - male and female - lie a poorly understood and poorly studied spectrum of ambiguously defined sexual identities that are very much a part of the human condition but defy rigid classification. "Bigender" is a recently formed sub-category of transgenderism, describing individuals who experience a blending or alternation of gender states. While recognized nominally by the APA, no scientific work to our knowledge has addressed this fascinating condition, or proposed any physiological basis for it. In addition, the alternation aspect has not been proposed as a nosological entity distinct from blending. We present descriptive data suggesting that many bigender individuals experience an involuntary switching of gender states without any amnesia for either state. In addition, similar to transsexual individuals, the majority of bigender individuals experience phantom breasts or genitalia corresponding to the non-biologic gender when they are in a trans-gender state. Finally, our survey found decreased lateralization of handedness in the bigender community. These observations suggest a biologic basis of bigenderism and lead us to propose a novel gender condition, "alternating gender incongruity" (AGI). We hypothesize that AGI may be related to an unusual degree or depth of hemispheric switching and corresponding callosal suppression of sex appropriate body maps in parietal cortex- possibly the superior parietal lobule- and its reciprocal connections with the insula and hypothalamus. This is based on two lines of reasoning. First, bigender individuals in our survey sample reported an elevated rate of bipolar disorder, which has been linked to slowed hemispheric switching. We hypothesize that tracking the nasal cycle, rate of binocular rivalry, and other markers of hemispheric switching will reveal a physiological basis for AGI individuals' subjective reports of gender switches. Switching may also trigger hormonal cascades, which we are currently exploring. Second, we base our hypotheses on ancient and modern associations between the left and right hemispheres and the male and female genders. By providing a case of sharp brain-sex shifts within individuals, we believe that the study of AGI could prove illuminating to scientific understanding of gender, body representation, and the nature of self.