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My Dreaded "Chat" with my Wife

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This conversation took place about 2 weeks ago..  And some things are too personal, and frankly, not germane to this conversation, so therefore not in this little "report".  But, I thought this might help others when it came their time to confess to wife, family or significant other.  Please, any constructive thoughts will be gladly accepted.


The Conversation

It was Tuesday afternoon, if I remember right.  Anyways.....  I have a hard time telling anymore rather wifey pooh is just asking a question or being ridiculous.  A lot of times, I cant tell if she's being an ass or really concerned.  She's gotten me to the point where I am defensive most of the time, whenever we "discuss" my "condition".  

Back to the story.....  We got into a discussion a few weeks back about our lack of communication on Doctor's appointments and such.  So, the previous day I sent her a text about next weeks schedule.  On the way home, she said something about all of my doctor's appointments and my therapist.  That I should be at my max for out of pocket soon if not already.

I told her that if she would like me too, I would cancel my upcoming Doctor's appointment.  It's for mostly routine, non gender issues like tracking my b/p and such.  She got a little pissed.  I told her it really was no big deal, that if she was concerned about the frequency of doctor visits, I would be more than happy to cancel a few if it kept us from fighting.  Hand to God, I was as calm in my reply as if she had asked me if I liked supper or any thing else mundane.  I was being sincere with her, and showing her that I was NOT trying to pick a fight.

After a few, she came right out and asked me when I was going to switch genders.........   WOW, where the hell did that come from, I asked....

I told her that I was NOT going to be a Catlin Jenner  ....  That she has known for a year or better about me being Transgender, that she had THAT mixed up with being a Tran sexual like Catlin.

She said she knows that I have a device to , in her words, suck my tits out, and that I was taking vitamins to feminize.....  And she further stated that she was NOT a dumb shit.   I told her that the gains I've made have NOT been vitamins.   I told her she KNEW for years, that I was a cross dresser and that I was given an opportunity to further it to where I am comfortable.

Well at that, we both were very still, no chatting till we got home.

That's what started the conversation.... or the "Chat" that I have dreaded to get into.

After we had been home for like 5 mins, I asked her if she would like to continue with our conversation.  I was trying to give her an out so that she could "digest" the chat we had coming from her work place.  Or if she sincerely was worried, curious or scared I would try to ease those conditions for her.

As I mentioned.  After we were home for like 5 mins or so, we started chatting.  Or maybe I should say I did.  I thought that since she hadn't erupted like a volcano, or broken out in tears it was time to get the "elephant out of the room".

I restated that I had NO intentions of any SRS, That I just sometimes have the need to feel more feminine.  That it overtakes me, and maybe that is some of the reason for my ebb's and flow's of emotion and lack of stability for the last ten years.  That, and my near fatal heart attack really played with my brain!

I told her that I received several theories on why and how come now.  One of them was my therapist thinks I was born this way, that I had forcibly repressed it since I was a child.  That my heart attack and medical retirement made it more difficult for me to fight it any longer.

My regular Medical Doctor thinks that I may of had a "mini Temporal seizure" or stroke either during my heart surgery or sometime later.  ( She explained that being put on then taken off Heart/Lung machine for major surgery has been know to cause strokes and blood clots to form!)  That, the part of the brain controls inhibitions, thoughts of paranoia and general feelings.  And that my "Other" Doctor thinks it could be a combination of being wired partially female in the brain, and the life altering near death heart attack.

I told her that my doctor and I think that we wonder if my old doctor didn't miss something before, during and after my heart episode.   That old doctor, in my opinion is a dam quack.  That's the reason I dumped him within a year of my heart attack. Anyways, he didn't know that I had a heart problem until like the 2 or 3rd week of me complaining.  ( the heart specialist said I may of had up to 4 heart attacks during them 2 weeks.)  I also developed an infection that had turned my testicles into the size of tennis balls that were painful.  ( Took my original doctor 2 weeks to get the right combo of drugs to rid me of them.)

So, I asked her where that put us on the Grand Scale of Things. She said that she knew I had been into cross-dressing for quite some time.  That she had learned to deal or ignore it.  But my transgenderism, cross dressing and purposely feminizing was a little harder for her just to say....  "Oh Well".  But as far as things go, that my Grand Kids know I wear bra's most of the time, And that so far, it hasn't created much of a problem accept she didn't want my oldest Grandson embarrassed when friends came to visit.

Also, she didn't want the family embarrassed when or if we go out like to dinner together, or in general public.  That she could let it roll off of her, if it was just the two of us, but NOT if and when if involved our families.  I told her that I understood wanting to protect the family for I felt that way too.  And that is not a condition that she needed to worry about setting, I was more than good about it.

I told her the one reason the other doctor thought is was like a mini stroke was the fact that last year they had problems understanding why my FSH hormone, Testosterone levels were very high, but I had developed Gynecomastia as well.  They figure something had screwed up my hormones, and with so much T it was being converted into Estrogen.  The doctors told me that if I was already leaning Trans, the extra E would further push the condition forward,

So, I guess things are stable for now, but I cannot help but feel things have probably changed forever.  Rather it's for the good or not, I have no idea.  But, if I can keep communications open and such, I hope things will work out.  That and setting a few more rules that I can deal and live with.  Maybe, just maybe I am hopeful???

End of "The Chat"

Before anyone asks....  No, I haven't told her that my GD put me on Female HRT.

Sorry for the "novella", but like I said.  If this helps other's belay their fears or maybe gives the the help or courage to come clean with loved ones then it's really worth the read then.
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#2

Ah but aria 

You have not come clean ????

You have not told her your on hrt

That is going too weigh ? 

Julie
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#3

Having known my wife for close to 1/2 century, if she wants to know, she will say something...  She's almost like a kid scared of the dark...  When scared, she tends to pull the covers up over her head thinking that nothing can hurt her.  

That's why SHE initiated the conversation the way she did.  She understands that the doctor was very concerned cause my FSH was creating a devastating conflict by trying to balance hormones between Testosterone, Estrogen and other secondary ones and thereby setting me up for tremendous amount of problems both mentally and physically..

Mentally by furthering the un-natural way of "brain rewiring", and physically by sapping calcium and causing more arthritis, I already have a hip and possible knee the doctors would love to replace.  

I'm not saying my wife is childish, but in some respects it's like talking to children about sex when they are too young or immature to understand what you are trying to teach them.  I have no doubt she will be asking more questions about the HRT i'm on.  But it will then be on her time schedule and not motivated by my agenda.  In that way, she will be more understanding of all situations.

In a super great world, none of this would be necessary...  But we all know that it is not.  And since I have know this sweet beautiful woman since she was 13, I feel this is the best way for her to get to a safe point of at least understanding of things.  So, please do not judge too harshly.
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#4

Aria!
I think you handled the situation well....but.
From what I have learned and experienced, this thing we do or which comes over us has devastating consequences for family life.

Most of the husband wife conversations are defensive on both sides. Wife doesnt want to be married to a woman or doesnt want to deal with a man that doesnt want to be a man any more. And the husband not understanding why she cant accept his new fondness for things feminine. So conversations are just back and forth defense. Never any real understand of whats going on or why.

The other is a relationship is where the husband asks for the help of his spouse to help understand whats happening to him. If there is love there, she will be willing to bend and flex and maybe enjoy having a girlfriend as well as a hubby.
Rules are set and as long as conversation continues life can be OK. Just because its ok with the spouse doesnt make it ok to suddenly drop your male side. Its still a fragile and slippery thing.
If your very lucky your wife will help you pick clothes, correct your male foibles and foopahs, and maybe tell you look nice.

I happened to be updating my interest in My Husband Betty and came across this interview that you might find of interest to get the understanding wifes perspective..kinda.

https://www.sisterhouse.net/familyroom/2...and-betty/

Like Julie said you still have to drop the other HRT shoe.
But you have explained it many times to us so review your posts and see what you can come up with. I think the calming effect of the HRT might be your safest approach.
Huggs
Bobbi
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#5

Ok Aria

Gotcha

Non judged

Keep working at it

x

Julie
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#6

@ Bobby:  I definitely understand the woman's side of things...  The whole dynamics change, rules or accommodations MUST be adopted and used.  I feel she "knows" that "vitamins" will not normally develop breasts as thoroughly as mine has.  I believe she is substituting vitamins for drugs or hormones.  She is no dummy, as she often points out to me!   LOL  For her, it's like her driving a car.  The only thing she wants to learn is when to put fuel in, not the inner workings, or how to change the oil in 10 minutes.  I have no doubt, if she does want the sordid details, she will definitely strike up the conversation.

@ Julie:  I think the above answer would work well to you also.

I do appreciate your concern and ideas.  Who knows, maybe I should of just spill " all the beans".  After all, this is not the usual thing like figuring out a budget or deciding on a vacation destination.

I guess time will definitely tell, eh?
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#7

Hi Aria

told my wife everything and did not start low dose hrt until told her, had it ordered and in the drawer ready to go
but had the chat before started,

I dont keep anything from her even porn , lol

Just the way I work,
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Julie

she asked me the other week did I want to be a woman ?

my honest answer was ,

well ? I dont think so

Julie
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(30-08-2017, 04:39 PM)julieTG Wrote:  Hi Aria

told my wife everything and did not start low dose hrt until told her, had it ordered and in the drawer ready to go
but had the chat before started,

I dont keep anything from her even porn , lol

Just the way I work,
x

Julie

she asked me the other week did I want to be a woman ?

my honest answer was ,

well ? I dont think so

Julie
I am very glad for you.  You must of found the one in a thousand woman then.
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#9

Well hope so

Many women change their mind though as female progression occurs

Some encourage from the start and then leave

Some leave and come back and encourage transition 

Julie
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#10

My wife knows what I an doing. I told her...to thine own self be true.

She knows I am unique.
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