(27-12-2011, 12:33 AM)beachbumbythesea Wrote: Oh..very interesting graph...I didnt realize that estrogen goes up and down at 2 points..good to know..hmmm.. I knew progesterone went up at only one point.. I am wondering at my age (47 soon 48 in a few months) that I may have to put progesterone in my regimen but my thought is just the cream or both that and WY ..thank you for the reply..Sorry Zoe for hijacking your thread..maybe it will help you too..
As for the estrogen double ramp, there are other graphs floating around on the boards, one from Pansy-Mae that suggests the 2nd estrogen ramp/hill isn't as defined and significant as the one in my chart. Which one is right? I'm not sure
They could potentially both be right depending on the person of group of individuals in which the analysis was made. The data I took was from a mathematical thesis(algorithms and formulas) which matched up to their specific set of real-world data. I can't say that the test/info is 100% valid, but it seemed reasonable enough!
As for the WY/Progest I personally use a natural progesterone cream made by NOW products, which contains Wild Yam as one of its main ingredients so I'm no longer mixing my own. I suggested the extraction of WY to make cream if you don't have access to a progesterone cream. I don't think it would hurt to take WY internally -- just like everything else they say that taking these hormones internally will provide more of an "overall" effect compared to applying them directly in order to effect a particular location. Lucille Sorelle, probably hijacked info from members of this forum laid out a recipe for "boobie batter" which was a mix of fg/wy extract if I'm remembering correctly. I used to apply this cream to my breasts before I started PM -- sometimes plain FG cream, sometimes plain WY.. or a mix of both. These creams stink and people at work said I smelled like pancakes all the time =D
When I started taking PM, I stopped applying WY to my breasts because I realized it was a progesterone, and instead began either dry-massaging and eventually my current and favorite: I apply cocoa butter with vitamin E made by Palmers
http://www.amazon.com/Palmers-Cocoa-Butt...B0009F3O8Q using a hybrid(chi massage with breast-slapping)
The breast slapping hybrid involves me crossing my hands over to the opposite breasts and lightly flapping/slapping my breasts inward together. I also do this underneath my breasts as well. While massaging I also use some of the pump of cream on my arms/pits to smooth out marks and my abdomen as well, but leave most of the cream for the breasts.