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Male, starting PM

#1

Hi everyone-
I've been browsing the forums, reading and learning all that I can about this. I've long considered having larger breasts, but being a male, I just didn't think it wsa possible without some sort of hormone replacement therapy or such. Well, I'd read about fenegreek before, and after stumbling upon this site, began taking 3 618mg capsules each day and accompanying that with massage, often with olive or other oils. That's been going on for 3 weeks now, and, while I'd like to say I notice some growth, I don't think I do, but I can detect a consistency change and also a little bit of shaping going on. And I didn't really expect to notice anything substantial in so short a time, either. Anxious as I might be, I also appreciate reality, so I realize this could take a while, if it is to work at all, and I am certainly hopeful of that.
As I said, I've been reading, and my attention has been drawn to PM, and I just got a 3 month supply (2 500mg/day) today. Needless to say, I've taken the first one, and along with a nice glass of milk. I have a question about what the instructions on the package say and that suggests starting with one capsule per day for the first 2 or 3 weeks. I can appreciate taking time to accumulate it in my body, but haven't seen any mention of that anywhere else, so I wonder, being male, should I, or need I, do that? I might take just the one for the first week anyway, just to begin to get familiar with anything new that might be involved, but wonder if I need to wait the whole 2 or 3 weeks until going to the second capsule.
Also, should I discontinue the fenegreek? Some threads have suggested to just take the PM alone, so I wanted to ask.
I'm really grateful for any help anyone might offer, and I'll try to keep any threads I might start over in the male section, but this seemed like the best place to ask this particular question. And I'll write up an intro for me shortly and post that as well.
I hope this finds everyone well,
flordis
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#2

Hi flordis and welcome.

Ok, if you look through the threads you'll find all of your excellent beginners questions, and many more besides, have been answered many times. It can get a bit confusing though, so briefly, the basics boil down to:

1) It is generally thought to be good idea not to take FG etc at the same time as PM because it can dilute the effects.
2) The exception to that is that you can take SP and PM together because the SP is an anti-androgen and you may need that.
3) Its always wise to start anything new, gradually, just in case your body has any kind of adverse reaction.
4) Your PM says 2 x500mg per day maximum - that is for females and again it is generally thought that up to 4 a day for males is fine ( I don't have any problems at that level myself) and going up to 6 for a short periods is quite common, but not all in one go!
5) On either FG or PM, some slight change in texture/shape in the first few weeks is usual but is not true growth, it is the start of fat redistribution to a female pattern.
6) To get true growth starting you need to be thinking in terms of maybe 3 or 4 months, although you may be one of the lucky ones and get it sooner.
7) At 6 - 9 months you can expect to have small but real boobs and after that its up to you how long you keep at it but they are for life so be sure what you are getting yourself into!

Hope this helps.

Pansy mae
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#3

Thanks for the reply. I do realize there is a vast amount of information in the forum and also the archives, and I'm working my way through all of that, often massaging as I go, but my enthusiasm got the better of me and I guess I was/am a little impatient to learn about the couple of things I asked. I appreciate the process takes time, so I'm not impatient about that, but anxious could be used to describe my feelings, I guess.
I read what you wrote, and digested it a little overnight. I think I'll finish the weekend taking 1 500mg PM per day, then go to two per day starting next week. I'll stay with that for a few weeks to a month and get used to anything that might be going on and maybe increase the amount after evaluating the situation then. I've figured to give it 6 months at least to see if it is working and also if I'm happy with the progress. If it takes a while, that is fine with me, as I realize the permanence of doing something like this. Slow and steady would be just fine with me.
I had a funny realization this morning, too. I'm very picky about the milk I drink and only consume non BGH milk. So there I was this morning, taking my phytoestrogens with my preferred non hormone milk. I chuckled a little, and 'down the hatch' it went.
Thanks again for your help!
flordis
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