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Hello everyone!
After 2 months on BN, I'd like to share some information about me, my program, my progress and ask for opinions and insight.

I'm a 30 years old male. After couple of years contemplating feminization, making temporary steps, unmaking them again, I decided to go down the herbal route, as a sort of "HRT lite", in an attempt to assess if that's what i really want. NBE is huge part of the whole project, but it's general (hormonal) feminization what I seek.
After some research (you call it "lurking" huh?Wink) and kind advice from Lotus (here's long overdue "thanks!") I settled on this program, which I roughly follow for more than 2 months now:

PM (Ainterol): 1000mg/day with some calcium. Plus small amount in body lotion.
Fenugreek: 250 mg/day
Reishi 3:1 alcoholic extract: 30-40 drops/day.
PC cream (Biovea): 1/4 maximum daily recommended dose. Applied for 3 weeks, followed by a break of 1 week. Will go up to 1/2 of recommended dose today.
MSM: 4 grams/day.
Coconut oil: a teaspoon/day.
Infusion from 2 teaspoons of spearmint, 2 teaspoons of green tea, 1 teaspoon of ayurvedic blend (shatavari, ashwagandha, licorice): 4 - 5 times a week.
Massage with flaxseed oil: at least once per day.
Lemon juice w/ warm water.
I shall add WP (3:1 alcoholic extract) if and when the order actually manages to get through the post. (Had 2 shipments lost already..... in Europe, 2016. Go figure.)

That's a lot of supplements and it makes me worry a bit about the liver, but I think the doses are generally on the low side.
Results are showing, fast. Breasts, mostly. I'm very skinny and started totally flat so I guess that could be expected.

What do you think about the program? Are there any undesirable interactions I'm not aware of? What could be added? What can be dropped?

Additionally I have two concerns:
1) Some might find this problem hilarious, but how can I get me some fat tissue healthily? No matter what I eat, I can't gain weight. Long term, this mars breast development no matter how I fiddle with hormones. Not to mention it just doesn't look very feminine.
2) NBE lately sort of overshadowed what I initially considered equally important: body hair reduction. My current program helps some. Could WP work better, via testosterone depletion?

Thanks for your time. Any kind of feedback will be appreciated.
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oki's program - by oki - 21-04-2016, 10:55 PM
RE: oki's program - by Tanya Marie Squirrel - 21-04-2016, 11:05 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 27-04-2016, 10:39 AM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 22-05-2016, 05:08 PM
RE: oki's program - by Sofia Bunny - 22-05-2016, 06:27 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 12-06-2016, 09:32 PM
RE: oki's program - by Tanya Marie Squirrel - 13-06-2016, 12:09 AM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 16-06-2016, 08:34 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 10-08-2016, 11:03 AM
RE: oki's program - by jannet.duff - 10-08-2016, 02:43 PM
RE: oki's program - by lilmikey - 10-08-2016, 04:00 PM
RE: oki's program - by Learning - 10-08-2016, 08:02 PM
RE: oki's program - by Billie - 11-08-2016, 02:18 AM
RE: oki's program - by Lotus - 11-08-2016, 04:08 PM
RE: oki's program - by polymorphis - 11-08-2016, 06:42 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 16-08-2016, 10:07 AM
RE: oki's program - by polymorphis - 17-08-2016, 05:59 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 21-08-2016, 07:49 AM
RE: oki's program - by polymorphis - 21-08-2016, 09:38 AM
RE: oki's program - by Nikki9 - 28-08-2016, 10:45 AM
RE: oki's program - by Shae - 28-08-2016, 09:13 AM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 11-09-2016, 09:09 PM
RE: oki's program - by The First Aria - 11-09-2016, 10:13 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 19-01-2017, 04:25 PM
RE: oki's program - by Jessica4581000 - 24-01-2017, 08:59 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 19-01-2017, 05:20 PM
RE: oki's program - by polymorphis - 19-01-2017, 06:03 PM
RE: oki's program - by Ways Tonn - 20-01-2017, 12:03 AM
RE: oki's program - by Happyme - 20-01-2017, 03:40 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 20-01-2017, 09:33 PM
RE: oki's program - by julieTG - 22-01-2017, 12:02 PM
RE: oki's program - by Learning - 23-01-2017, 06:44 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 23-01-2017, 09:01 PM
RE: oki's program - by EndlessEden_mn2010 - 25-01-2017, 02:33 AM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 04-04-2017, 08:34 PM
RE: oki's program - by VergeOfDiscovery - 05-04-2017, 04:07 PM
RE: oki's program - by wlmill - 03-04-2023, 05:52 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 04-04-2017, 08:39 PM
RE: oki's program - by Stevenator. - 04-04-2017, 10:16 PM
RE: oki's program - by Lotus - 05-04-2017, 03:56 AM
RE: oki's program - by Happyme - 05-04-2017, 02:29 PM
RE: oki's program - by polymorphis - 05-04-2017, 06:38 PM
RE: oki's program - by DDs_for_me - 05-04-2017, 09:35 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 07-04-2017, 09:54 AM
RE: oki's program - by EndlessEden_mn2010 - 09-04-2017, 08:39 PM
RE: oki's program - by rachel-rache - 12-04-2017, 11:03 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 12-04-2017, 11:58 PM
RE: oki's program - by EndlessEden_mn2010 - 15-04-2017, 04:59 AM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 13-04-2017, 12:00 AM
RE: oki's program - by rachel-rache - 13-04-2017, 12:08 AM
RE: oki's program - by rachel-rache - 13-04-2017, 01:09 AM
RE: oki's program - by Happyme - 13-04-2017, 05:21 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 13-04-2017, 12:19 PM
RE: oki's program - by rachel-rache - 13-04-2017, 06:08 PM
RE: oki's program - by Billie - 14-04-2017, 02:13 AM
RE: oki's program - by Connie - 10-05-2017, 08:13 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 13-05-2017, 10:45 AM
RE: oki's program - by Connie - 13-05-2017, 03:09 PM
RE: oki's program - by Connie - 17-07-2017, 07:30 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 18-07-2017, 04:50 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 26-07-2017, 05:22 PM
RE: oki's program - by julieTG - 26-07-2017, 06:03 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 01-08-2017, 03:05 PM
RE: oki's program - by Connie - 10-08-2017, 04:15 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 31-08-2017, 10:19 AM
RE: oki's program - by julieTG - 31-08-2017, 01:15 PM
RE: oki's program - by Happyme - 31-08-2017, 04:32 PM
RE: oki's program - by julieTG - 31-08-2017, 05:37 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 01-09-2017, 10:41 AM
RE: oki's program - by The First Aria - 01-09-2017, 03:52 PM
RE: oki's program - by julieTG - 01-09-2017, 04:35 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 02-09-2017, 03:55 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 18-09-2017, 09:41 PM
RE: oki's program - by Connie - 25-09-2017, 04:37 PM
RE: oki's program - by Connie - 26-09-2017, 02:31 PM
RE: oki's program - by julieTG - 25-09-2017, 05:32 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 02-10-2017, 09:58 AM
RE: oki's program - by myboobs - 02-10-2017, 09:13 PM
RE: oki's program - by Jessica4581000 - 02-10-2017, 09:56 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 02-10-2017, 10:50 AM
RE: oki's program - by julieTG - 02-10-2017, 12:53 PM
RE: oki's program - by aroundthebend - 02-10-2017, 02:50 PM
RE: oki's program - by The First Aria - 02-10-2017, 03:20 PM
RE: oki's program - by Happyme - 02-10-2017, 05:53 PM
RE: oki's program - by Connie - 03-10-2017, 06:25 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 04-10-2017, 08:54 AM
RE: oki's program - by Connie - 10-10-2017, 02:51 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 05-11-2017, 05:31 PM
RE: oki's program - by julieTG - 05-11-2017, 05:59 PM
RE: oki's program - by The First Aria - 05-11-2017, 09:11 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 05-11-2017, 09:32 PM
RE: oki's program - by julieTG - 05-11-2017, 09:43 PM
RE: oki's program - by Katie - 05-11-2017, 10:05 PM
RE: oki's program - by julieTG - 05-11-2017, 10:22 PM
RE: oki's program - by Shirazmn - 06-11-2017, 12:14 AM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 06-11-2017, 04:36 PM
RE: oki's program - by julieTG - 06-11-2017, 05:06 PM
RE: oki's program - by Katie - 06-11-2017, 06:05 PM
RE: oki's program - by The First Aria - 06-11-2017, 09:52 PM
RE: oki's program - by Katie - 06-11-2017, 10:26 PM
RE: oki's program - by Shirazmn - 06-11-2017, 06:12 PM
RE: oki's program - by julieTG - 06-11-2017, 06:29 PM
RE: oki's program - by Katie - 06-11-2017, 07:06 PM
RE: oki's program - by julieTG - 06-11-2017, 08:04 PM
RE: oki's program - by Shirazmn - 06-11-2017, 08:22 PM
RE: oki's program - by Katie - 06-11-2017, 09:16 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 06-11-2017, 11:36 PM
RE: oki's program - by julieTG - 07-11-2017, 10:18 AM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 23-01-2018, 05:53 PM
RE: oki's program - by Katie - 24-01-2018, 08:47 PM
RE: oki's program - by julieTG - 24-01-2018, 07:07 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 25-01-2018, 02:07 PM
RE: oki's program - by Katie - 25-01-2018, 02:49 PM
RE: oki's program - by julieTG - 25-01-2018, 02:26 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 30-03-2018, 02:15 PM
RE: oki's program - by kidcloudkicker - 30-03-2018, 03:47 PM
RE: oki's program - by The First Aria - 30-03-2018, 04:02 PM
RE: oki's program - by myboobs - 30-03-2018, 09:58 PM
RE: oki's program - by aroundthebend - 31-03-2018, 06:11 PM
RE: oki's program - by Tanya Marie Squirrel - 30-03-2018, 02:20 PM
RE: oki's program - by Happyme - 30-03-2018, 02:53 PM
RE: oki's program - by julieTG - 30-03-2018, 04:11 PM
RE: oki's program - by Connie - 31-03-2018, 04:25 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 31-03-2018, 05:12 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 01-04-2018, 03:24 PM
RE: oki's program - by aroundthebend - 02-04-2018, 09:04 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 03-04-2018, 12:21 PM
RE: oki's program - by Farrell - 23-10-2019, 08:51 AM
RE: oki's program - by VergeOfDiscovery - 15-12-2019, 01:26 PM
RE: oki's program - by Stevenator. - 15-12-2019, 09:55 PM
RE: oki's program - by arl234 - 12-02-2022, 05:15 PM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 20-03-2022, 08:22 PM
RE: oki's program - by Eloise - 23-06-2022, 01:22 PM
RE: oki's program - by Jamie-May - 21-03-2022, 12:40 AM
RE: oki's program - by HelloDiDi - 21-03-2022, 08:08 AM
RE: oki's program - by oki - 24-06-2022, 05:55 PM
RE: oki's program - by Connie - 16-10-2023, 09:06 PM
RE: oki's program - by LexiCD - 17-10-2023, 08:50 AM
RE: oki's program - by twentiesss - 18-02-2024, 05:03 AM



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