Coming Back -
flamesabers - 20-06-2019
Hello everyone.
I've been mostly absent from this site for awhile, but I would like to start posting again. I've also been going cold turkey with NBE but I started back up again this week. Currently I'm taking 1,000 mg of pm and using Ainterol's pm breast cream. I might also start applying progesterone cream directly to my breasts to encourage some development.
Attached is a picture of my current progress.
If you have any feedback, comments or suggestions, please let me know!
RE: Coming Back -
Stevenator. - 20-06-2019
Hi Flame! Welcome Back!
It’s hard to stay away from NBE, for sure.
Ive had good success adding MSM, it builds collagen.
Fenugreek with Saponins. I never liked taking FG before
because it upset my stomach. I last ordered Barlow’s
because it was a liquid extract gel cap. It didn’t upset
my stomach. I’m waiting on an order of a different brand
as Barlow’s is expensive. But, I was really impressed with
the way I responded to this new FG. It helps with prolactin,
and that was lacking for me in the past. I also ordered
Hops extract for another prolactin boost. I only took PM
and BO without any AA. In my order is also Reishi, as its
a very strong AA. Lastly, Lotus recently posted in the
Project-X thread about American Ginseng. I’m about to
get my third order of American Ginseng, and Lotus is
right. It works. Lastly, I mix Green Tea with Mint Tea.
The mint is a very strong AA for me. I’m at the point
now that I’m getting gains and I hope this latest program
will give me a final push. I round out the program with
Vitamin B, C & D3. The Vitamin C should be taken with
the American Ginseng. I’m currently exploring ways to
boost HGH & IGF-1, but it looks like a high intensity
workout is the best way to get it. I’m trying to follow
the Breast Growing Notes Formula of Estrogen,
Progesterone, Prolactin, Growth Hormone and
Aromatase.
Good Luck & it’s great to have you back.
RE: Coming Back -
flamesabers - 20-06-2019
Thank you for the warm welcome Stevenator.
Yes, it's hard to stay away NBE for long. Over the last few days it feels like I'm getting a bit of boobie greed.
What's MSM?
What is American Ginseng suppose to do? I tried searching for Project-X thread but I'm not getting any search results.
RE: Coming Back -
Stevenator. - 20-06-2019
Apologies for the late response. I've posted many times in the past about having more free T available potentially creates a cascade of estrogen. The only problem is finding what works for the conversion, meaning everyone is different because of the varying degrees of individual metabolism. Now, I believe there's things in the NBE medicine cabinet to achieve the conversion of aromatase. The top in my mind is using second messengers, check the FAQ aromatase section for examples, personally?...I prefer glycosides. I'll add the following info below as an example though.
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Remember-only hormones that detach from SHBG and Albumin are considered in the FREE state, about 2-5%, that's FREE testosterone and FREE estradiol, which will be available the bind with receptors and induce growth.
certain metabolic pathway that has direct impact on breast growth.
For instance, there's a specific agonist for a nongenomic pathway of sex steroid receptors that stimulates breast growth.
* Ginsenosides are a class of steroid glycosides, and triterpene saponins. Brilliant huh?...
cAMP-dependent signaling pathways (cyclic adenosine monophosphat).
COX2 inhibitors (PGE2), problematic
protein kinase A (PKA)
Free fatty acids
aromatase expression is switched to promoters I.3 and II which are transactivated by protein kinase A (PKA) and cAMP-dependent signaling pathways.
These are promoters genes for aromatase.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3142499/
history of high blood pressure, PCOS, HIGH cortisol, diabetes...latest blood work, any other complications, current meds and herbals.
Please read this study.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2893180/
(Especially this section in the study)
Ginsenosides are agonists to steroidal receptors
Cortisol + glucocorticoids + cAMP = aromatase.
Now that's just the starting point, you'll also need a balanced gut PH, proper diet/exercise, and balanced hormones.
These studies listed below sets forth the ground work that taking the aromatase we have in our system and combining it with a cAMP (second messenger....which is panax ginseng) and a glucocorticoid (vitamin D3) reaches the breast growth pathway in no uncertain terms. I'm not concerned all the low bioavailability of the Ginsenoside's in ginseng, you don't need alot...maybe 4-6% of standardized ginsenoside.
A balanced gut PH (which is about 7 to 7.5 ph) helps to metabolize drugs and herbs...prevents leaky gut syndrome.
Now a person with high stress might see a bigger impact using this formula. It's also possible that 30-35% users might not see results, ruling out certain metabolic conditions of course too.
beta blockers and PDE 5 inhibitors (E.D. aka erectile dysfunction drugs) works also in combination with ginseng by relaxing blood vessels and slowing heart rate...which improve blood flow and decrease blood pressure.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article...o=0.471698
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22315456/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4501869/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication...rain_cells
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginsenoside
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3162649/
RE: Coming Back -
Stevenator. - 20-06-2019
MSM (methylsulfonylmethane) has a slew of benefits ....
RE: Coming Back -
Pansy-Mae - 20-06-2019
Hi Flame, good to see you back.
RE: Coming Back -
Shirazmn - 20-06-2019
Welcome back to BN!!!
RE: Coming Back -
flamesabers - 20-06-2019
I think that's a lot of information to take in Stevenator!
Thank you for the welcoming Pansy-Mae and Shirazmn.
RE: Coming Back -
Stevenator. - 20-06-2019
Yeah, well .... you know Lotus! Haha.
RE: Coming Back -
spanky - 20-06-2019
Hi Flame! It's been a while. My only advice is to stay in touch.