New way ! -
mongoose3 - 20-09-2017
I have used this forum for many many years! More than I care to admit. I have done so many methods its hard to keep count. But just so you know I did the herbs and the pump and the prescription estrogen and even the bovine ovary and more. To some extent they all work and I have you ladies to thank you for all your guidance.
I am now a very nice 38 B but I do not want to exaggerate it is a small B. Makes it real hard for a bra because most B sizes are too big and most A sizes are too small. But you can see from my picture I am not exaggerating which occasionally happens here. This is a picture I did a review on for a company that wanted their lingerie reviewed. I got it for free and they send me more every once in a while to do reviews!
For the last 3 or more years I have been working on increasing my growth hormone levels mostly through using l-arginine. I have not wanted to try HGH because of the cost as well as other bad stuff. I have become receptive to GHRP however which is a peptide that makes the pituitary gland produce it the way you naturally would produce it.
So today I had my IGF-1 levels tested. Here are reasons why copied from wilkipedia.
Moreover, a trial of hormonal breast enhancement in 45 young women with very high doses (80 mg/injection) of
intramuscular,
bioidentical estrogen (in the form of
estradiol polyphosphate, a
slow-releasing estradiol prodrug) for six months found that only the women in whom an increase in IGF-1 levels occurred after four weeks (46.7% of subjects) experienced a significant increase in breast size (824.3 mm to 898.5 mm).
[1][2] This is in accordance with the established fact that both estrogen and IGF-1 appear to be essential for
breast development, and when present together, are synergistic in mediating it.
[11][12]
And
Trans women who are treated with estrogen experience normal pubertal breast development similarly to the case of girls with Turner syndrome.
[19] However, they generally show a smaller final breast size in comparison to their immediate relatives (one
cup size less on average).
[19] This is perhaps due to the fact that most trans women do not commence HRT until adulthood, which is of relevance because GH/IGF-1 levels significantly and progressively decrease after normal adolescent puberty (from late adolescence/early adulthood and thereafter).
[20] As such, synergy of estrogen with GH/IGF-1, and by extension, maximal breast development potential, may be reduced.
So anyway I wanted to make a contribution to this site for all the help you ladies have given me! I am hesitant because there are so many who will say this is not a way to go! I get my feelings hurt easy and its ok if you disagree but could you please be kind about it?
If this test turns out low I am scheduled with a Doctor and with my endo to try Sermorelin and GHRP-2. and by the way I am using a transdermal patch through my endos advice and prescription!
I am open to any comments and questions and just ask you be nice!
Lotus if you are out there I miss you!
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Jessica4581000 - 21-09-2017
(20-09-2017, 05:54 PM)mongoose3 Wrote: I have used this forum for many many years! More than I care to admit. I have done so many methods its hard to keep count. But just so you know I did the herbs and the pump and the prescription estrogen and even the bovine ovary and more. To some extent they all work and I have you ladies to thank you for all your guidance.
I am now a very nice 38 B but I do not want to exaggerate it is a small B. Makes it real hard for a bra because most B sizes are too big and most A sizes are too small. But you can see from my picture I am not exaggerating which occasionally happens here. This is a picture I did a review on for a company that wanted their lingerie reviewed. I got it for free and they send me more every once in a while to do reviews!
For the last 3 or more years I have been working on increasing my growth hormone levels mostly through using l-arginine. I have not wanted to try HGH because of the cost as well as other bad stuff. I have become receptive to GHRP however which is a peptide that makes the pituitary gland produce it the way you naturally would produce it.
So today I had my IGF-1 levels tested. Here are reasons why copied from wilkipedia.
Moreover, a trial of hormonal breast enhancement in 45 young women with very high doses (80 mg/injection) of intramuscular, bioidentical estrogen (in the form of estradiol polyphosphate, a slow-releasing estradiol prodrug) for six months found that only the women in whom an increase in IGF-1 levels occurred after four weeks (46.7% of subjects) experienced a significant increase in breast size (824.3 mm to 898.5 mm).[1][2] This is in accordance with the established fact that both estrogen and IGF-1 appear to be essential for breast development, and when present together, are synergistic in mediating it.[11][12]
And
Trans women who are treated with estrogen experience normal pubertal breast development similarly to the case of girls with Turner syndrome.[19] However, they generally show a smaller final breast size in comparison to their immediate relatives (one cup size less on average).[19] This is perhaps due to the fact that most trans women do not commence HRT until adulthood, which is of relevance because GH/IGF-1 levels significantly and progressively decrease after normal adolescent puberty (from late adolescence/early adulthood and thereafter).[20] As such, synergy of estrogen with GH/IGF-1, and by extension, maximal breast development potential, may be reduced.
So anyway I wanted to make a contribution to this site for all the help you ladies have given me! I am hesitant because there are so many who will say this is not a way to go! I get my feelings hurt easy and its ok if you disagree but could you please be kind about it?
If this test turns out low I am scheduled with a Doctor and with my endo to try Sermorelin and GHRP-2. and by the way I am using a transdermal patch through my endos advice and prescription!
I am open to any comments and questions and just ask you be nice!
Lotus if you are out there I miss you!
How do you sign up for the lingerie trials? I could do that! I too am a 38b, a bit fuller on the right than the left, but I'm working on trying to balance out the girls.
I've found everyone on here helpful and supportive, even if they have a different opinion than I do- and that's ok too.
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Lotus - 21-09-2017
Welcome back mongoose....(missed ya too).
I'm totally onborad with what IGF-1 can do for NBE/Hrt, tbh I've added certain amino acids that stimulate GH/IGF-1, it works.
good luck.
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julieTG - 21-09-2017
Hi mongoose
Welcome back
Excellent ideas.
I think poli did some experiments with growth hormone levels too and she is stunning, although gone a little shy lately
I.e. Much progress but not that much visible
Small hint poli x
Keep up the good work and keep us informed
Julie
X
RE: New way ! -
mongoose3 - 21-09-2017
Lotus it is so good to hear from you ! It has been so long I was becoming concerned. The olive oil application you told me about really works well!
RE: New way ! -
mongoose3 - 21-09-2017
Jessica as far as the lingerie reviews go, I just got an an email one day from a company asking me if I would review it for them. I said yes and never asked any questions. I guess they are happy because every now and then they send me a new one to review !?
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mongoose3 - 21-09-2017
This chart is on labcorp.
From my research ideally a genetic male needs to be at least 250 or above to reach maximum breast growth potential to mirror that of a female. ( of course with the right amount of estrogen as well or perhaps a natural product like PM). From the same chart we see that a male between 31 and 50 is not at that number. If you were 26 to 30 you would be on the top end to make the 250.
Male
Age ng/ml
26 to 30 98−282
31 to 35 88−246
36 to 40 83−233
41 to 45 75−216
46 to 50 67−205
Studying the below chart you can see just how much you need to be at when the age for most women starts for breast growth! On Tanner stage 3 the female on the lowest end is at 258.
Insulin-like Growth Factor 1 (IGF-1)
(ng/mL) (ng/mL)
Age Male Female
12 126−499 105−499
13 139−533 116−533
14 148−551 123−552
15 152−554 127−554
16 153−542 128−542
17 151−521 125−517
18 146−494 121−486
19 140−463 114−451
20 133−430 108−416
21 to 25 115−355 93−342
Tanner Stag Male Female
I 81-255 86-323
II 106−432 118−451
III 245−511 258−529
IV 223−578 224−586
V 227−518 188−512
I am of course open to any ideas and corrections.
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mongoose3 - 22-09-2017
My Lab results came in . I was 165. Not too bad. Next step obviously is getting that increased.
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Annielewis - 23-10-2017
Thank you for sharing these.
Justvirginhair
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mongoose3 - 27-10-2017
(23-10-2017, 03:22 AM)Annielewis Wrote: Thank you for sharing these.
Justvirginhair
Youre very welcome !