Breast Growth For Genetic Males

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I have used this forum for many many years! More than I care to admit. I have done so many methods its hard to keep count. But just so you know I did the herbs and the pump and the prescription estrogen  and even the bovine ovary and more. To some extent they all work and I have you ladies to thank you for all your guidance.

I am now a very nice 38 B but I do not want to exaggerate it is a small B. Makes it real hard for a bra because most B sizes are too big and most A sizes are too small. But you can see from my picture I am not exaggerating which occasionally happens here. This is a picture I did a review on for a company that wanted their lingerie reviewed. I got it for free and they send me more every once in a while to do reviews!

For the last 3 or more years I have been working on increasing my growth hormone levels mostly through using l-arginine. I have not wanted to try HGH because of the cost as well as other bad stuff. I have become receptive to GHRP however which is a peptide that makes the pituitary gland produce it the way you naturally would produce it.

So today I had my IGF-1 levels tested.  Here are reasons why copied from wilkipedia.

Moreover, a trial of hormonal breast enhancement in 45 young women with very high doses (80 mg/injection) of intramuscular, bioidentical estrogen (in the form of estradiol polyphosphate, a slow-releasing estradiol prodrug) for six months found that only the women in whom an increase in IGF-1 levels occurred after four weeks (46.7% of subjects) experienced a significant increase in breast size (824.3 mm to 898.5 mm).[1][2] This is in accordance with the established fact that both estrogen and IGF-1 appear to be essential for breast development, and when present together, are synergistic in mediating it.[11][12]

And

Trans women who are treated with estrogen experience normal pubertal breast development similarly to the case of girls with Turner syndrome.[19] However, they generally show a smaller final breast size in comparison to their immediate relatives (one cup size less on average).[19] This is perhaps due to the fact that most trans women do not commence HRT until adulthood, which is of relevance because GH/IGF-1 levels significantly and progressively decrease after normal adolescent puberty (from late adolescence/early adulthood and thereafter).[20] As such, synergy of estrogen with GH/IGF-1, and by extension, maximal breast development potential, may be reduced.

So anyway I wanted to make a contribution to this site for all the help you ladies have given me! I am hesitant because there are so many who will say this is not a way to go! I get my feelings hurt easy and its ok if you disagree but could you please be kind about it?

If this test turns out low I am scheduled with a Doctor and with my endo to try Sermorelin and GHRP-2. and by the way I am using a transdermal patch through my endos advice and prescription!

I am open to any comments and questions and just ask you be nice!
Lotus if you are out there I miss you!
(20-09-2017, 05:54 PM)mongoose3 Wrote: [ -> ]I have used this forum for many many years! More than I care to admit. I have done so many methods its hard to keep count. But just so you know I did the herbs and the pump and the prescription estrogen  and even the bovine ovary and more. To some extent they all work and I have you ladies to thank you for all your guidance.

I am now a very nice 38 B but I do not want to exaggerate it is a small B. Makes it real hard for a bra because most B sizes are too big and most A sizes are too small. But you can see from my picture I am not exaggerating which occasionally happens here. This is a picture I did a review on for a company that wanted their lingerie reviewed. I got it for free and they send me more every once in a while to do reviews!

For the last 3 or more years I have been working on increasing my growth hormone levels mostly through using l-arginine. I have not wanted to try HGH because of the cost as well as other bad stuff. I have become receptive to GHRP however which is a peptide that makes the pituitary gland produce it the way you naturally would produce it.

So today I had my IGF-1 levels tested.  Here are reasons why copied from wilkipedia.

Moreover, a trial of hormonal breast enhancement in 45 young women with very high doses (80 mg/injection) of intramuscular, bioidentical estrogen (in the form of estradiol polyphosphate, a slow-releasing estradiol prodrug) for six months found that only the women in whom an increase in IGF-1 levels occurred after four weeks (46.7% of subjects) experienced a significant increase in breast size (824.3 mm to 898.5 mm).[1][2] This is in accordance with the established fact that both estrogen and IGF-1 appear to be essential for breast development, and when present together, are synergistic in mediating it.[11][12]

And

Trans women who are treated with estrogen experience normal pubertal breast development similarly to the case of girls with Turner syndrome.[19] However, they generally show a smaller final breast size in comparison to their immediate relatives (one cup size less on average).[19] This is perhaps due to the fact that most trans women do not commence HRT until adulthood, which is of relevance because GH/IGF-1 levels significantly and progressively decrease after normal adolescent puberty (from late adolescence/early adulthood and thereafter).[20] As such, synergy of estrogen with GH/IGF-1, and by extension, maximal breast development potential, may be reduced.

So anyway I wanted to make a contribution to this site for all the help you ladies have given me! I am hesitant because there are so many who will say this is not a way to go! I get my feelings hurt easy and its ok if you disagree but could you please be kind about it?

If this test turns out low I am scheduled with a Doctor and with my endo to try Sermorelin and GHRP-2. and by the way I am using a transdermal patch through my endos advice and prescription!

I am open to any comments and questions and just ask you be nice!
Lotus if you are out there I miss you!

How do you sign up for the lingerie  trials? I could do that! I too am a 38b, a bit fuller on the right than the left, but I'm working  on trying to balance out the girls.
I've found everyone on here helpful and supportive, even if they have a different opinion than I do- and that's ok too.
Welcome back mongoose....(missed ya too).

I'm totally onborad with what IGF-1 can do for NBE/Hrt, tbh I've added certain amino acids that stimulate GH/IGF-1, it works.

good luck. Smile
Hi mongoose
Welcome back

Excellent ideas. 

I think poli did some experiments with growth hormone levels too and she is stunning, although gone a little shy lately

I.e. Much progress but not that much visible

Small hint poli x

Keep up the good work and keep us informed

Julie
X
Lotus it is so good to hear from you ! It has been so long I was becoming concerned. The olive oil application you told me about really works well!
Jessica as far as the lingerie reviews go, I just got an an email one day from a company asking me if I would review it for them. I said yes and never asked any questions.  I guess they are happy because every now and then they send me a new one to review !?
This chart is on labcorp.

 From my research ideally a genetic male needs to be at least 250 or above to reach maximum breast  growth potential to mirror that of a female. ( of course with the right amount of estrogen as well or perhaps a natural product like PM).   From the same chart we see that a male between 31 and 50 is not at that number.  If you were 26 to 30 you would be on the top end to make the 250.

Male
Age               ng/ml
26 to 30      98−282
31 to 35      88−246
36 to 40      83−233
41 to 45      75−216
46 to 50      67−205



Studying the below chart you can see just how much you need to be at when the age for most women starts for breast growth! On Tanner stage 3 the female on the lowest end is at 258.


 

Insulin-like Growth Factor 1 (IGF-1)



               (ng/mL)          (ng/mL)
Age          Male                Female
12           126−499        105−499
13           139−533        116−533
14           148−551        123−552
15           152−554        127−554
16           153−542        128−542
17           151−521        125−517
18           146−494        121−486
19           140−463        114−451
20           133−430        108−416
21 to 25  115−355        93−342


Tanner Stag     Male           Female
I                          81-255       86-323                           
II                         106−432   118−451
III                        245−511   258−529
IV                       223−578    224−586
V                        227−518    188−512


I am of course open to any ideas and corrections.
My Lab results came in . I was 165. Not too bad. Next step obviously is getting that increased.
Thank you for sharing these.  Big Grin 
Justvirginhair
(23-10-2017, 03:22 AM)Annielewis Wrote: [ -> ]Thank you for sharing these.  Big Grin 
Justvirginhair

Youre very welcome !
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